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I’m Terrified of My New TV

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Re: I’m Terrified of My New TV

#201

"Stop listening" Or some other key phrase to turn off and on voice control with a visible notification light could help solve some of the problem.

and then someone in the family says "Listen to me!" to another family member and TV is all ears again :)

Re: I’m Terrified of My New TV

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The author is afraid of his smart TV, but probably doesn't think twice about carrying around a smartphone. Smartphones have virtually all of the capabilities that make the author fear his smart TV, only the smartphone is, if anything, even more dangerous because it is more ubiquitous. People carry their phones around everywhere, and the phones are usually constantly on and equally capable of monitoring your every wor…

Smart phones are self-limiting though, because they mostly can't afford to be recording literally everything that is being said and then sending it off somewhere, because of battery concerns, and also the fact that majority of people are on limited data plans, so if the phone was constantly sending something it would have been noticed. Not so much with a TV - it's connected to mains power, and usually a broadband connection where sending some data is not going to be much of a problem.

Re: I’m Terrified of My New TV

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post #47

We need a Butlerian Jihad against surveillance. You know what will never stop this? Posts on hacker news. Letters to your congressman (LG can donate a fuqton more to his re-election campaign than you can). Voting with your dollar (people who know what a privacy policy is are few and far between). You know what will? Taking these TVs into the street, smashing and burning them. Mobs storming Best Buy and smashing the s…

You're clearly a terrorist. Or whatever the correct synonym is for an American who disagrees with authority.

I would say 'dysphemism' rather than synonym. (Edit, forgot a word).

Re: I’m Terrified of My New TV

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I have a 10 years old TV (still a CRT because they were better than LCDs back in 2004, but that's not important). It will stop working more sooner than later and I'll have to replace it with some sort of smart TV. Whatever I get inside it I decided what to do with it long ago: keep it off the Internet. Instead I'll hook it the the very same Raspberry PI with OpenELEC I'm using right now. If something breaks because i…

If you have the space buy a projector:

- They are generally not smart

- They cost less than TVs (especially by the inch)

- They don't work well during the day (no daytime TV, only movies at night)

Re: I’m Terrified of My New TV

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post #103

I'm probably not normal, but frankly I would just leave it unplugged from the Internet. At the end of the day my current tv does what I need to do (ie act as a big monitor) without an internet connection. Given the number of devices already floating around here for browsing the web, I don't really need my tv to do that. For streaming I have Chromecast or whatever. I get that tv makers want to sell me something, but t…

I can't believe that people buy integrated media players with their TVs. They are usually multiple hundreds of dollars on top of the base TV model price, have terrible interfaces, and are crippleware, using apps with very few services. I suppose the economics aren't as straightforward, but I'm of the opinion that Chromecast, Roku, AppleTV, etc are the next layer of crippleware. A small form factor Windows box or a Ma…

My 50" Sony TV uses 35W of power. Adding a Mac Mini or a Windows Box would at least double that value. And no, PC connected to the TV is not superior, unless you have a mouse and a keyboard attached to it - which is already a subpar experience to using a TV remote/Smartphone. And I far prefer the Netflix interface on my TV to their web interface.

Re: I’m Terrified of My New TV

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Went through this recently at Best Buy. The salesperson said by next year they may no longer carry any "dumb" tvs. Currently, those options are almost gone. I didn't see any dumb tvs over 40" and there were no 4Ks without "smart" features. I plan on just blocking it in my router, but who knows if the TV scans around for open hotspots. If I were a "smart" developer Id store everything locally if offline, then dump to…

Seiki makes decent, affordable 4ks at large size and no smarts.

Re: I’m Terrified of My New TV

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post #32
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you recommend any resources for getting started?

Yeah, I'd also be interested in some resources on outbound filtering your network.

I currently use a Mikrotik 750GL as my main router to the internet. In it i have a list of static DNS entries to send AD networks, and things like google-stats to a local http server to block the traffic. I also use it to block devices that i can not control from connecting to the internet (this is how i will block any "internet if things" crap). I dont need a internet connection on all the "things" in my house.

Also, there is no reason why all these functions should be built into a TV. I believe that the TV should be a monitor and thats it. We dont even need to have a TV tuner anymore. Just add 6 HDMI ports or more and I will add whatever function i want.

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Re: I’m Terrified of My New TV

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you get hardware without proprietary radios (which, yeah, is impossible) and install only free software on it, you aren't lost. I use Paranoid Android, and I know my S4 can still use its radio to spy on me, but at least the OS itself isn't.

Enjoy your relative freedom while you can. In the so-called Internet of Things we're headed for, computers may be all-pervasive, wearable, embedded in everything, unobtrusive, practically indetectable and inescapable. They are likely to be always communicating with the other computers all around them, and privacy will be a dream of the past. Unfortunately, counter-surveillance technology does not appear to be keeping…

"Unfortunately, counter-surveillance technology does not appear to be keeping pace with surveillance technology, and since most people don't yet seem to care about being surveyed, there isn't much of a market for it."

EMP ?

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