I lied about another counter offer at negotiation time and the new company bumped the total offer package from $170,000 (base $130,000) to $260,000 (base $155,000 ) to match the fake counter offer and also bumped the offered titled two levels up. Shows the importance having a counted offer. I have 9 years of software development experience and current and new company is in Seattle Area. Just wanted to say it to somebody about the guilt which I cannot refuse to have.
Tell: Got 50% bump for faking a counter offer
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#2UNITS!!????!!!!
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#3That's a bit confusing. Guessing you're in europe and talking euros per month? Cause initially, to an american it looks like you're talking about $1,700,000 a year - a huge salary-- and just dropped a zero.
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#4That's a bit confusing. Guessing you're in europe and talking euros per month? Cause initially, to an american it looks like you're talking about $1,700,000 a year - a huge salary-- and just dropped a zero.
Its $170,000 total package including stocks, salary etc. per year and not $1,700,000 and I am in Seattle, USA.
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#5Why do you feel guilt at all? The company could afford to bump your salary up 50%, you just needed to give them a compelling reason to do so. In a world where sociopathic behavior is celebrated, you’re just playing the game.
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#6You're worth what people are willing to pay you, good job!
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#7I have a question: How do people even have real counteroffers? Do you apply for multiple jobs and two or more happen to make you an offer? How do you manage to get the times to line up so perfectly?
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#8I have a question: How do people even have real counteroffers? Do you apply for multiple jobs and two or more happen to make you an offer? How do you manage to get the times to line up so perfectly?
One way is to go back to your original company and say you're leaving. You then either sit back and see if they offer you more money to stay, or you explicitly tell them "NewCo is offering $X" and see if they match or beat that.
This move, while very gutsy and sometimes very effective, only really works in an industry where you're in high demand and/or you're essential to the operation of your current employer.
But, in either case, there's no guarantee. Your old boss might certainly counter-offer and give you the higher salary, but only long enough to find a replacement employee at (or even less than) your old salary. Then your salary very abruptly drops to $0.
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#9I have a question: How do people even have real counteroffers? Do you apply for multiple jobs and two or more happen to make you an offer? How do you manage to get the times to line up so perfectly?
Apply for a new job and put in your 2 weeks at your old job, If they need you enough your old job might offer you more money.
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#10Well done! Don't be guilty though, that's how engineers get underpaid in the first place.