Tim Cook Speaks Up • Hacker News Board

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by aragot » Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 1:40 PM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #180

nailer wrote: post #109

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Wow. That doesn't sound like an accident - you don't say someone "is fairly open about being gay" unless you're damn sure they are. What an unpleasant person.

If your job was to blather on air day after day for however many hours you'd probably say a couple dumb things too. Everyone has "known" Tim Cook was gay forever so it's not a hard mistake to make.

How did everyone know? Or even, guess? I assume there are a few factors which generally correlate with being gay, such as never being seen dating a girl or trying to stick with gay fashions?

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by jeremysmyth » Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 1:40 PM UTC

super_mario wrote: post #182

jacquesm wrote: post #119

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As a fellow atheist I would very much appreciate it if you educated yourself a bit further before hurting your self-proclaimed cause.

You know when in the worlds only constitutional secular democracy it becomes impossible to actually be secular and be elected, when school boards constantly try to teach stultifying pseudoscience to our children, when demand for equal time for creationism and evolution or outright refusal to teach evolution in biology classes becomes the norm, when even coming out as gay or atheist in large parts of the country can g…

the worlds only constitutional secular democracy

whut? There are several, and most don't have the problem you're talking about. Which one are you talking about?

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by stephenr » Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 1:41 PM UTC

general_failure wrote: post #171

While this is already known, this does show us the world is not black and white. Tricky the whole thing. Mozilla as a company fights for privacy and creates a lot of free software for the general good. But people couldn't stand it's CEO being anti-gay. Now we have the most dangerous (imo) company of all time whose CEO is gay. Ah, good times.

The most dangerous company of all time?

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by andrewthornton » Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 1:41 PM UTC

What kind of chair is he sitting on in the first image?

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by netcan » Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 1:43 PM UTC

hox wrote: post #154

[deleted] wrote: post #152

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Who is to say that one's definition of "God" must conform to what a church teaches?

If we get into this sort of semantic aerobics, we are just talking about words.

The context of the statement is a message to the general public, in America. The language he used has a particular meaning in the context.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by jacquesm » Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 1:43 PM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #181

jacquesm wrote: post #117

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That's a mistake but it should be a career limiting mistake nonetheless.

To me this is like saying if you've ever written a bug into production software it should be career-limiting.

Disclosures of that nature are not at the same order as writing bugs into production software.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by Cthulhu_ » Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 1:43 PM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #181

jacquesm wrote: post #117

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That's a mistake but it should be a career limiting mistake nonetheless.

To me this is like saying if you've ever written a bug into production software it should be career-limiting.

A more apt comparison would be to accidentally reveal a hidden feature of your application to the public.

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by notduncansmith » Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 1:44 PM UTC

piratebroadcast wrote: post #125

dodyg wrote: post #121

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Tim Cook is a Christian. This is a message to the Church.

And is Southern as well - From Alabama. Big church influence down there.

Indeed there is. Did not know Tim was from Alabama though, represent!

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by boiledfig » Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 1:44 PM UTC

dodyg wrote: post #121

Jedd wrote: post #20

I wonder how carefully crafted this line was: ... I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me. It seems a particularly odd thing to slip in, on so many levels.

Tim Cook is a Christian. This is a message to the Church.

I don't understand what the Church are able to do given that their teachings are based on the Bible and not society

Re: Tim Cook Speaks Up

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Post by JeremyNT » Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 1:45 PM UTC

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #140

DanBC wrote: post #84

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Where the homesexual agenda in Disney movies? I'd prefer specific examples rather than just handwavey nonsense.

Frozen. Had a Swedish guy (shop owner) living with another guy and they both had a bunch of kids. Described the other guy and kids as his "family." See point #5 in this article's list: http://mic.com/articles/79455/7-moments-that-made-frozen-the...

> Had a Swedish guy (shop owner) living with another guy and they both had a bunch of kids. Described the other guy and kids as his "family."

This is quite a stretch. As the father of a young child I have seen Frozen more times than I am proud to admit, and while it could be that the large man in the sauna is the shopkeeper's husband, he could just as easily be the shopkeeper's son, while the smaller woman in the scene is the shopkeeper's wife.

Even if you assume this to canonically be a gay relationship in a Disney movie (and it would, I suppose, be the first), it's a tiny throwaway moment in the life of a minor character which is easy to miss completely. This is hardly "taking a stand" as the grandparent post suggested.