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Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Try writing a Powershell cmdlet in a language not designed by Microsoft.

Any language that has a .net VM implementation can do it, including Python and Ruby, which weren't designed by Microsoft.

IronRuby is a dead project and IronPython was heavily written by Microsoft.

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Windows has runas and has since Windows NT 4.0. Maybe you should educate yourself instead of making incorrect snarky comments?

Jeez, take it easy. It's a legit question, few people are aware of runas .

Yep, I'm not aware of it.

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So while Linux users can feel happy that Android is Linux under the covers, really, the real reason it is so popular is that it's so different from Linux. For an average user, thankfully it doesn't have any traits of Linux. Like, when I install Android on my machine, I don't have to go and manually edit the xorg.conf file so that the machine knows my monitor can take 1280 x 800 resolution and not just 640 by 480, aft…

I do get your point, generally, but your specific example is kind of dated - I have been using GNU/Linux on my desktops for about 14 years now, and I do remember how much editing xorg.conf / xfree86.conf sucked. But it has been years since I have had to do that. The last time I checked was in Ubuntu 10.04, where xorg.conf consists only of a comment that says that xorg can detect the hardware and configure itself, mak…

Yeah. The xorg.conf file was a little old example. Though I keep coming back to Linux every few years to check, and the 'making executable an executable' problem is still there from my very recent experience (like 3 to 4 months back). Right at the time I was being impressed by how easy it was to isntall Ubuntu from my Windows partition, I couldn't believe when one of the professional products we use in our office had these official installation instructions for Linux: "1) Download the file, 2) go to the command prompt and make it executable by typing " ... Now I understand it might be that the product makers haven't updated themselves, but it's definitely a turn of for a lot of people.

Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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I do get your point, generally, but your specific example is kind of dated - I have been using GNU/Linux on my desktops for about 14 years now, and I do remember how much editing xorg.conf / xfree86.conf sucked. But it has been years since I have had to do that. The last time I checked was in Ubuntu 10.04, where xorg.conf consists only of a comment that says that xorg can detect the hardware and configure itself, mak…

Yeah. The xorg.conf file was a little old example. Though I keep coming back to Linux every few years to check, and the 'making executable an executable' problem is still there from my very recent experience (like 3 to 4 months back). Right at the time I was being impressed by how easy it was to isntall Ubuntu from my Windows partition, I couldn't believe when one of the professional products we use in our office had…

So you'd prefer to be able to just double click to run any downloaded "executable"?

But anyway, the problem you described is the fault of your vendor, not "Linux".

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> There is no Windows equivalent to epoll/kqueue There is: Overlapped IO: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms68... > But if you bring this up to most Windows people they tell you to use IO completion ports, which are totally different and require the core of the program to be redesigned IO completion ports and epoll both require the programs flow logic to be designed for them. If a program has…

You, I like you. ( https://speakerdeck.com/trent/pyparallel-how-we-removed-the-... )

Awesome! Thanks!

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Yeah. The xorg.conf file was a little old example. Though I keep coming back to Linux every few years to check, and the 'making executable an executable' problem is still there from my very recent experience (like 3 to 4 months back). Right at the time I was being impressed by how easy it was to isntall Ubuntu from my Windows partition, I couldn't believe when one of the professional products we use in our office had…

So you'd prefer to be able to just double click to run any downloaded "executable"? But anyway, the problem you described is the fault of your vendor, not "Linux".

Yes, when I and the vendor both know it's supposed to be an executable. What a smart question. Also, an application is only as dumb as the OS allows it to be.

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The fact that the Chocolatey repository will be compatible is very convenient, it looks like MS is listening to the user community, well done.

Hmm, I'm not so sure I appreciate the Chocolately support. I've found the packages really spotty as to where they are going to install, what options they are going to use, whether they bother to provide an uninstaller. I think a large part of that is how Windows manages installation and libraries though. In an ideal world maybe everything would provide MSIs, but they alone are not a silver bullet. I hope Microsoft ta…

But those are installer problems, not Chocolatey problems. Anyone who starts on the road to automated installations on Windows realises that it's basically the Wild West. Especially if you need to install XP or Vista era software.

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IBM's the same way. Doesn't mean it will forever be relevant beyond a small niche.

You'd be amazed how big that small niche is. Quite a lot of people like .NET development.

I never said their nice was small right now. I said that MSFT is not guaranteed a place at the Big Person table in every market forever. For example, when's the last time you saw someone using a MSFT mobile device?

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"just fine" isn't perfectly true. The bionic interface they somehow "wash" from GPL headers to BSD headers is questionable.

Nope, there is nothing questionable about it. Linus himself has stated it: http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20110322014831...

That's interesting. Still, there are a huge number of copyright holders of the linux kernel and some may have a different opinion on the legalese applies.
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