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Not having to reboot after updates is my favorite part of Linux so far.
Not having to reboot almost ever is also pretty nice.
Ubuntu forces a reboot on kernel upgrades fwiw.
Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
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Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
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I was merely providing examples everyone is familiar with. What software do you run on your Windows servers? And, how does it get updated?
I run a few windows servers maintained via ansible. There is a protocol called winrm built that is functionally equivalent to ssh for the purposes of remotely controlling a box. Ansible uses winrm to provision. Beyond that, chocolatey.org provides a complete package management solution as long as you are looking to install popular free (as in beer) software. Also, you need to learn powershell to do anything useful. I…
I think one can hardly exaggerate what an improvement over cmd.exe PowerShell is. Even if I really hated the outcome, these days PowerShell is just too damn useful to ignore as a Windows admin.
One thing I am seriously disappointed with is the documentation or lack thereof. PowerShell's Get-Help/man cmdlet is admittetly nice, but compared to the kind of documentation you get with Perl or Python, I am left underwhelmed.
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> Desktop computing doesn't really matter that much anymore. For whom? Companies might make more money selling mobile devices compared to desktop/laptop PCs but that doesn't equate to the inane statement oft repeated that "desktop computing doesn't really matter that much anymore". Desktop (including laptops of course) is where 99% of the world's actual office, accounting, design, writing, programming, editing etc, c…
To consumers who don't create content - as the comment you're replying to clearly states.
Is an email "content"? Is a blog post? A HN/Reddit/whatever comment?
I don't think the old stereotype of "consumers" as some sort of purely passive livestock is especially useful any more. Clay Shirky's old but very readable "Here Comes Everybody" makes a similar case at much greater and more articulate length.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#304> much to the lament of Linux users What? Everyone will be happy to have one, especially people that use Linux at least some of the time.
I agree. I use OSX and Linux at home, but I am a Windows admin at work. And while I strongly prefer Unix-like systems to Windows, I welcome every effort to improve it and make my job easier.
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Not sure why you think I don't know why they exist, but Chromium is quite different from Chrome: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoo...
I know that you know it, I was talking about your hypothetical user. Except for the color of the icon and the lack of support by default for AAC, H.264 and MP3 (I have support for those 3 in Chromium in Arch), do you find anything relevant that will make some non-expert notice they are using Chromium and not Chrome?
Don't forget Flash and (until recently) PDF reading support.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
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Why do you need to lock a binary on disk when a copy of it is running in main memory? Because the copy in memory may still want to use the old version. Raymond Chen explained it here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2008.11.windowsc...
To prevent DLL Hell, in other words. Again, not a problem on Linux because Linux keeps numbered versions of .so files. So it's not that Windows has to restart after replacing a file that is in use. It's just that it would rather not deal with the complexity that results if it doesn't. In other words, "we didn't want to bother with versioning DLLs."
It's more complicated than that. Windows doesn't have true inodes but rather uses the name alone to identify files. So you can't unlink any open file. (Try to delete a directory when you have a command prompt open in it.)
Windows did hack on a form of DLL versioning in the form of isolated assemblies. It's ugly and complicated and Microsoft still resorts to suggesting that you avoid DLL hell by bundling local copies of all your shared libraries. Which kind of makes me wonder why they're even called "shared" at all. May as well just statically link.
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Open cmd window, left click on icon on left of cmd title bar, adjust window size in Defaults and Properties. This includes, height, width and buffer size.
Unlike every other window , where you can change the horizontal size by dragging. It's a relic and I'm glad they're fixing it, but as with the browser they're only delivering changes because third-party software innovated them and it's making them look bad.
>but as with the browser they're only delivering changes because third-party software innovated them and it's making them look bad.
How is that a bad thing? Firefox was kinda stagnant before Chrome came around and took the performance throne, I don't see anyone criticizing Mozilla for that.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#308Wow, what's next, ability to shift-ctrl+c & shift-ctrl+v text in the console just by default?
You mean that right click on the window chrome then select 'mark' then select text then right click window again and then choose 'copy' isn't a good user interface?
No, it's crap, so the only people that do that are beginners, command line tourists, or people using one of the very small number of console programs that support the mouse. Regular console users use the QuickEdit mode: left click to enter select mode, drag box - or double click to select a space-or-line-end-delimited region. Then press return to copy or esc to cancel. Then right click to paste. Squint hard enough, and it's almost like using xterm!
(Bonus feature: you can halt unexpected TTY spew by clicking in the window, giving you a chance to examine it.)
QuickEdit still doesn't fix the box select thing (at least not pre-Windows 10) but it's a massive improvement nonetheless.
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I'll believe it when they let me resize the cmd window
Windows 10 command prompt will indeed let you resize the window. It will even re-flow the text already written , i.e. a long string written that flowed across several lines will also flow back into one line, once the window gets wide enough.
FINALLY! \o/
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#310It seems to me if Microsoft is copying features from Linux for Windows, then it may be that Linux on the desktop is starting to worry them.
As much as I wish it were so, I do not think that is the case at all. What worries them, if anything, is more people using Macs, and more people ditching their PC/laptop in favor of shiny smartphones and tablets.