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Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Chocolatey is great... although I wish it had a different "more professional"-sounding name.

When I was using it in anger a while ago I also found the quality of some of the packages to be a bit random, many of them just seemed to be random developer X's favourite aggregation of other packages. In which case I'm happy to see that they are adopting package moderation;

http://geekswithblogs.net/robz/archive/2014/10/27/chocolatey...

Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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I am not sure why even in 2014 we have to pit Linux against Windows. We have surely grown out of that sort of debate. Microsoft successfully achieved its objective of putting a computer in every home with the help of Windows. We should thank them for that. Linux on other hand has grown leaps and bounds. Android after all is a linux kernel fork. I think as technology lovers we can surely love both and look at them as…

If you want to decide what OS to use, you need criteria by which to make that decision.

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Vertically yes, but horizontally it's capped.

Open cmd window, left click on icon on left of cmd title bar, adjust window size in Defaults and Properties. This includes, height, width and buffer size.

Unlike every other window, where you can change the horizontal size by dragging.

It's a relic and I'm glad they're fixing it, but as with the browser they're only delivering changes because third-party software innovated them and it's making them look bad.

Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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Having a package manager is one thing, having a good curated repo of packages is another. I doubt MS Will have the balls to say that all their "partners" (most of the AV vendors, Oracle, ...) whose entire business model is based on crapware or bait & switch will somehow be banned from the repo? Currently it seems that both the apt and choclatey versions of Java actually come without crapware. I have a feeling that if…

>Having a package manager is one thing, having a good curated repo of packages is another.

So? Most open source distros have nothing but that -- all kinds of crap.

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Having a package manager is one thing, having a good curated repo of packages is another. I doubt MS Will have the balls to say that all their "partners" (most of the AV vendors, Oracle, ...) whose entire business model is based on crapware or bait & switch will somehow be banned from the repo? Currently it seems that both the apt and choclatey versions of Java actually come without crapware. I have a feeling that if…

I'm not really sure that relationship with AV vendors is as strong these days for MS to harm Windows UX.

Microsoft Security Essentials is actively trying to put them out of business. I had the impression that it was the OEMs who liked bundling terrible software.

I was looking at tablet PCs and they have some marketing term for "verified by Microsoft not to contain preinstalled crapware". Android doesn't have that.

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Good step, now the rest of Windows... I mean, Program Files containing the binaries is not even in %PATH%. I assume improvements will be made here too, but I wonder.

One problem with putting every subdirectory of Program Files in the path is that most of them contain 'setup.exe' and 'uninstall.exe'. Type "uninstall" at the command line to uninstall a random program!

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All the wonderful thing I can not do with my Android phone. Like uninstall the Samsung apps. Or have root. Or install my distro on it.

You can do all of that. It will void the guarantee, of course. Who would expect Samsung to support each and every peace of amateur software.

The idea of Samsung supporting any software, including their bundled junk, is laughable.

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That's bullocks, you're just changing definitions to suit your needs. Android is a mobile phone OS and as suchhas a marginal market share on desktop. Windows still has over 90% market share on desktop ( http://www.netmarketshare.com/ )

Desktop computing doesn't really matter that much anymore. I'm also coming down harshly on Linux here - they tried to be a better desktop OS rather than skate to where the puck was moving to. The vast majority of actual 'personal computing' is phones and tablets. PCs are content creation devices. Asides from Android obviously not being the traditional stack - no glibc, no KDE or GNOME - AOSP isn't very useful compare…

>Desktop computing doesn't really matter that much anymore.

For whom? Companies might make more money selling mobile devices compared to desktop/laptop PCs but that doesn't equate to the inane statement oft repeated that "desktop computing doesn't really matter that much anymore".

Desktop (including laptops of course) is where 99% of the world's actual office, accounting, design, writing, programming, editing etc, computing based work is happening.

Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager

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the lead dev and architect for OneGet jumped on the reddit thread yesterday and answered a bunch of questions: http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/2khkpo/windows_10_... using the username : fearthecowboy (his twitter is the same, @fearthecowboy ) This was the top comment: http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/2khkpo/windows_10_...

Nice... For those who've never heard of him: he's also the main developer behind Coapp http://coapp.org/

Do you have a positive experience with CoApp? Mine has been overwhelmingly negative: it does not appear to work, does not appear to be maintained and does not appear to be supported.

I've been trying to get somebody to provide even a little bit of support for Native Nuget packages via CoApp for months: http://stackoverflow.com/q/24331880/729881

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> ...someone says that the next year will be a year of Linux. Who says that unironically in 2014, though?

Given that more android devices are sold than windows, iOS and OS X combined, I would say it is a mere observation of fact that the past few years every year has been the year of linux. Linux on the desktop on the other hand...

If we combine BSD and Linux, it's actually not so bad.

* Globally, Android pretty much owns the mobile market. Android is a Linux.

* Most servers run some flavour of Linux or BSD.

* Although Windows still dominates the desktop market, a healthy share of the laptop market belongs to OS X, which is (partially) based on BSD.

This isn't exactly how the Open Source crowd envisioned "Linux on the desktop", but if the goal was to marginalize Windows in flavour of open source based *nixen, much of that goal has been accomplished.

Of course neither Android nor OS X are Free (as in freedom) and OS X is only partially a BSD, but you can't have everything.

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