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I think your joke was lost on many people.
Maybe they're just tired of it. I'm personally a little sick of how every single article I post on willpower or procrastination to Reddit or HN or anywhere else will attract the same damn joke . Like, do you really think anyone hasn't seen that before? Or that everyone doesn't think of it in the first second? (By this point, I've come to see it not as a genuine attempt at humor, but basically like posting 'First!' or…
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe they're just tired of it. I'm personally a little sick of how every single article I post on willpower or procrastination to Reddit or HN or anywhere else will attract the same damn joke . Like, do you really think anyone hasn't seen that before? Or that everyone doesn't think of it in the first second? (By this point, I've come to see it not as a genuine attempt at humor, but basically like posting 'First!' or…
Maybe you need to chill out, eat some healthy food, enjoy nature.
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#33Doing your job may mean procrastinating asking for a raise, looking for a better position at another company, starting your own business and many other things.
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They compare the degree of correlation between their identical and non-identical twins. If in both groups, twins show on average the same level of procrastination/whatever trait, you can infer that the trait is not strongly genetically linked. If the identical twin group shows more correlation between siblings than the non-identical twin group, then you can infer that the trait is strongly genetically linked. You can…
Just thinking out loud here, but if identical twins were much closer in, for example, appearance, couldn't this induce more similarity in other traits. That is, if being identical made twins have closer relationships, might that not result in higher correlations in certain traits, which weren't due to genetics. Do people tend to know if they are identical or non-identical twins?
Just kidding. But in my experience, parents of identical twins go in for the "isn't it cute lets dress them the same and treat them the same and tell them they are just the same". That has to be a strong influence. I'm not sure the twins-identical-or-not goes near far enough to untangle the nurture question.
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Just thinking out loud here, but if identical twins were much closer in, for example, appearance, couldn't this induce more similarity in other traits. That is, if being identical made twins have closer relationships, might that not result in higher correlations in certain traits, which weren't due to genetics. Do people tend to know if they are identical or non-identical twins?
Sure! If one is a guy and the other a girl, they would guess pretty quick. Just kidding. But in my experience, parents of identical twins go in for the "isn't it cute lets dress them the same and treat them the same and tell them they are just the same". That has to be a strong influence. I'm not sure the twins-identical-or-not goes near far enough to untangle the nurture question.
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Sure! If one is a guy and the other a girl, they would guess pretty quick. Just kidding. But in my experience, parents of identical twins go in for the "isn't it cute lets dress them the same and treat them the same and tell them they are just the same". That has to be a strong influence. I'm not sure the twins-identical-or-not goes near far enough to untangle the nurture question.
That may well be true in general - twin studies are certainly not the end all of distangling genetic and environmental effects. But if you read the studies results, I think the difference in correlation effect size speaks for itself. In general, identical twins correlate with r value of ~0.5 and non-identical twins with The authors interpret the low correlation in non-identical twins as evidence that the traits being…
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#37“Procrastination” is such a weasel term when used without an object. Whenever you do anything you’re procrastinating everything else you could’ve been doing instead. Doing your job may mean procrastinating asking for a raise, looking for a better position at another company, starting your own business and many other things.
The questions tend to cluster around things with firm deadlines, or otherwise of more or less known time components to it, and which furthermore have more or less the same costs to you. In your examples, things being put off have unknown time components and a relatively large degree of risk. Putting off those actions is in many ways the result of a pretty rational calculation.
In contrast, typical things that we 'procrastinate' about (like returning a library book, or washing the dishes, or doing some assignment) are things with little or know risk, as well as relatively well known time and effort (or we believe to be well known) costs.
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#38“Procrastination” is such a weasel term when used without an object. Whenever you do anything you’re procrastinating everything else you could’ve been doing instead. Doing your job may mean procrastinating asking for a raise, looking for a better position at another company, starting your own business and many other things.
One of the scales used to measure procrastination in this study is linked here: http://www.yorku.ca/rokada/psyctest/prcrasts.pdf (The study did not use any of the star marked questions). Basically, they found that there is a strong link between your genetics and how you will answer this questionnaire. The questions tend to cluster around things with firm deadlines, or otherwise of more or less known time components t…
My main objection is that what appears as procrastination to an outsider may not necessarily be procrastination per individual’s plan.
Moreover, I think the common attitude to this is unfortunate, because avoiding externally perceived procrastination may actually go against individual’s own interests. Such conflict could be enough to induce actual procrastination in those sensitive to public pressure but not willing to fully cave in[1].
Meanwhile, the majority of questions in the document judge the procrastination by this “external” standard.
[0] “Procrastination is the practice of carrying out less urgent tasks in preference to more urgent ones, or doing more pleasurable things in place of less pleasurable ones, and thus putting off impending tasks to a later time…”
[1] “I want to go freelancing (fire my client, etc.) but when I lurk and read up on this topic (polish my resume, etc.) I feel like I’m procrastinating, so I’m writing Hacker News comments instead” is roughly how I imagine this.
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Make a timeline for the next 10 years. Where are you trying to go? What are you doing to get there? Try to be specific about your plans and actions and how they will realize your goals. This is not an easy exercise. Making a timeline of your past can be helpful for getting perspective. I'm relatively planful, but I have trouble planning more than about 3-5 years out, although a few times I've had pretty clear 8 year…
That sounds terrifying. Can you give some examples of ten year goals? I don't even know where I want to be a year from now.
My wife decided she wanted to be a professor when she was in high school. She's three years into a tenure track job. She's been working towards this for nearly 15 years.
Building non-trivial skills or things of value takes time and usually requires a plan. All my startups had multi-year plans, even if things didn't work out as we'd envisioned.
At one point I decided I wanted to learn to speak other languages. I studied Japanese for a year, got a chance to move to China, and studied Chinese regularly until I got conversational. I wanted (and still want) to study others, but things went in another direction.
Another time, I decided I wanted to get better at math. It took me about a year to formulate a clear plan: I decided to get a PhD. There were some barriers (I had dropped out of my undergrad, for example) and it took a while to get on track. That was 8 years ago. I graduated in July.
I'm still working on my next plan.