Meteor hits 1.0 • Hacker News Board

Re: Meteor hits 1.0

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Post by saym » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:45 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #32

saym wrote: post #20

While I do enjoy the bleeding edge on which we live. I'd love to wait to have the discussion about the new Meteor features until their site and newsletter tells us about the release. Sure the git commit is a landmark, but there's nothing to offer other than 'kudos' with this link as the discussion point.

saym's comment refers to the original post, which pointed to a GitHub commit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8522106 . We merged the stories (in our ghetto way) and moved the comments over here.

Sneaky! Glad to have a better discussion focus point. Thanks for providing context to my comment.

Re: Meteor hits 1.0

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Post by rdtsc » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:46 PM UTC

aroman wrote: post #40

rdtsc wrote: post #35

Trying to figure out how it works. And saw this in one of the paragraphs: > No longer do you need to provision server resources, or deploy API endpoints in the cloud, or manage a database So you don't manage a database, but what happens to the data. Can anyone trace an example, I don't, order or cart update from client code to persisting it on the back-end somehow? Does it use flat files...?

It uses a database, specifically MongoDB. But as I understand it, Meteor manages this for you itself, and abstracts the orchestration of those things into the Meteor platform itself. It's just a higher level of abstraction, not a new technology. And certainly not flat files.

MongoDB? I think to be accepted and taken more seriously they'd have to at least have an option for something else.

Re: Meteor hits 1.0

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Post by roshanj » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:48 PM UTC

Congratulations to the Meteor Development Group! I've been using Meteor for 16 months now and it's amazing how much it has changed/improved. It is a great tool to learn for any beginner web developer.

Also check out a catalog of the best Meteor learning resources at http://MeteorHelp.com

Re: Meteor hits 1.0

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Post by coffeemug » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:50 PM UTC

Congrats to the team! This is a very serious engineering achievement. I'd imagine it wasn't nearly as easy as they made it look.

Re: Meteor hits 1.0

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Post by jeswin » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:51 PM UTC

The importance of JavaScript as a Platform is not abt billions of browsers running JS, but abt how each one of them is also a JS IDE. If we could click the fork button, and start editing, testing and deploying right away, all within the browser, we'd probably get programmers to contribute to open source web apps in a way never seen before.

A sea change in how web software gets built and consumed, in the same way Britannica yielded (had to) to Wikipedia.

Re: Meteor hits 1.0

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Post by lclarkmichalek » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 7:01 PM UTC

sferoze wrote: post #44

state wrote: post #33

I'm still a bit unclear on what the target market for Meteor is. Is this just for small to medium sized projects, or is it intended to be used for large-scale projects as well? Since it seems like everyone wants to think of themselves as doing something huge, I'm sure the answer can't be 'no' to the second question — but I don't see any examples of significant projects being built on the platform. Actually, with that…

Meteor just hit 1.0 and is not the type of framework you can just start including in your stack. You really have to build a meteor app from the ground up, so it is hard for established tech companies to get into Meteor when they already have spent years coding on another stack. As new startups who use Meteor grow you will see those large-scale projects come about.

So, to put it glibly, the only people who will use Meteor for large-scale projects are those who have no choice?

Re: Meteor hits 1.0

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Post by mmcclellan » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 7:02 PM UTC

donutdan4114 wrote: post #30

How does one start a project like this and get paid? What are the revenue sources for the team? It's a great product, and the fact that it's open source is amazing.

The wired article, currently at HN here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8522381

is interesting with regards to your questions.

Re: Meteor hits 1.0

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Post by djmashko2 » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 7:03 PM UTC

state wrote: post #43

imslavko wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look at the main website there are 6 featured videos of real companies using Meteor in production.

It was completely unclear to me that those were links. I guess that's my feedback? Thanks though!

(I work at Meteor) We'll fix this soon! Thanks for the feedback.

Re: Meteor hits 1.0

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Post by hardwaresofton » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 7:04 PM UTC

I haven't looked at Meteor in a while, but am really impressed with how the vision of Meteor and the code (and of course the website) have evolved.

Meteor looks extremely simple to get up and started with, and I was thoroughly impressed by the implicit modularity of it all ("meteor create" makes like 3 files, I think that's awesome)

They really try (and succeed) to rid ourselves of the duplication on server and client. And if the android/ios support is as easy as it looks, this is an insanely useful framework.

I'm going to use it in my next project for sure now, just need to see how template/module composition works

Re: Meteor hits 1.0

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Post by dasmithii » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 7:04 PM UTC

At this point, what percentage of web development can't/shouldn't be done with Meteor? It seems like everything else is obsolete in comparison. The only non-Meteor cases I can think of involve especially large scale.