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Re: Building Hater News

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I can't evaluate how serious or useful this is but I really like the idea. Anything that might encourage more constructive discussions is a perfectly valid thing to explore. I love the idea of trying to characterize the contributions of different commenters based on their history, including my own. Not just for things like "hatefulness" or "incoherence", which is what this seems to be detecting, but other things as w…

https://github.com/neyer/dewDrop may be up your ally - a formal language designed to make this sort of thing doable..

Woah, I always pondered the idea of doing a formal language for this but it's awesome to see someone else's take on it. Thanks for the link.

Re: Building Hater News

#25

Why does hate have negative connotations? If someone did evil to me, and I can't fight back, what do I have besides hate? And the app in question doesn't work.

Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

Re: Building Hater News

#28
Small bug: It seems like the specific comments that you link to also include submissions, which once it encouters that it mismatches all the subsequent 2 character links with the comments they're associated with by an index of 1. I.E.

AA -> links to comment beginning with AA

BB -> links to comment beginning with BB

CC -> links to a link the user submitted

DD -> links to comment beginning with CC

EE -> links to comment beginning with DD

Very cool implementation though.

Re: Building Hater News

#29

Why does hate have negative connotations? If someone did evil to me, and I can't fight back, what do I have besides hate? And the app in question doesn't work.

'Hater' isn't about hate. It comes from 'player-hater', where 'player' is slang for a pimp. Many people disapprove of the lifestyles of pimps, mainly because of their use of women's bodies as an income stream, and the emotional manipulation and physical abuse it takes to keep that up.

Pimps characterized this disapproval as a hatred borne from jealousness of a that lifestyle, masking dissatisfaction with one's own square, lame lifestyle, an expression of one's own inner turmoil, cowardice, and weakness.

Assholes at all levels of society picked up on this sentiment (through cultural colonialism.) 'Hater' now means anyone who criticizes the speaker for anything.

Re: Building Hater News

#30

Why does hate have negative connotations? If someone did evil to me, and I can't fight back, what do I have besides hate? And the app in question doesn't work.

When people said this genuinely, the (invalid) logic was that either:

- people who dislike you care deeply about you (enough to hate you), this proving that everyone cares deeply about you.

- people who dislike you dislike everything, so their dislike doesn't matter.

Both are obviously ridiculous, and now people mainly use the term ironically.

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