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How Races and Religions Match in Online Dating

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Re: How Races and Religions Match in Online Dating

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not flamebait at all. The data is all about people's responses to generic questions about what they're looking for in a date. They don't say "I don't want to date Muslims" and have that reflected in match scores. The match score is based on things like "I hate people who squeeze the toothpaste from the middle." It's quite interesting.

To put data based on 'race & religion' out in the open to me is already a thing that is not excusable (besides the lousy definition of such things as race and religion, both of which are floating, not discrete). There is a massive pre-selection problem here (people that frequent dating sites, rather than people in general) and the link to 'hacking' is a very tenuous one. I've seen Michael Jackson referred to as a hac…

Gotta agree with you on this one. It's amusing to look at the plots and note the bits that agree (or disagree) with your prejudices, but without some information about the variance this is nothing more than entertainment.

Re: How Races and Religions Match in Online Dating

#55

One possible explanation for the low Hindu-Hindu match is that there are many websites dedicated to specifically Hindu dating which means that the Hindus using OkCupid are those who are specifically not looking for a Hindu date. For other religions, such sites aren't nearly as prevalent.

Not really. The matches are based on answers users give to questions (both site designed and user designed). When the blogger says they don't match, it means: - Person A: I like X - Person B: I don't like people who like X Where X could mean ice cream, god or tooth-brushing. It has nothing to do with people selecting the race or religion of the people they think they want to date.

Unless there are very few Hindus using the site, in which case there could be (in the extreme) a single bad hindu-hindu match that skews everything.

We need error bars.

Re: How Races and Religions Match in Online Dating

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While I love the number crunching ethos, and think these guys are giving it one hell of a go - I will go on the record and say that they will ultimately fail because they are operating under many false premises, a few being: 1. People do not change their minds. By algorithmically matching based on answers to questions, you must assume that those answers are meaningful. And meaningful means CONSISTENT. And people are…

"By algorithmically matching based on answers to questions, you must assume that those answers are meaningful. And meaningful means CONSISTENT. And people are NOT consistent."

In practice, the user base for OkCupid will change. And old users will reanswer questions sometimes too.

"Assuming you are even GETTING like thinkers, (which is tenuous at best) where is it written that like thinkers make great companions?"

That's not how it works. It's not as simple as "answer match questions and we hook you up with people who answered the same way". You can specify which answers your ideal match would give, even if those answers conflict with the answers you yourself give.

"most human beings make judgments based on appearances"

Which is why you upload photos to OkCupid instead of just using match percentages.

Re: How Races and Religions Match in Online Dating

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post #43

While I love the number crunching ethos, and think these guys are giving it one hell of a go - I will go on the record and say that they will ultimately fail because they are operating under many false premises, a few being: 1. People do not change their minds. By algorithmically matching based on answers to questions, you must assume that those answers are meaningful. And meaningful means CONSISTENT. And people are…

"where is it written that like thinkers make great companions?"

OKCupid does not judge match percentage based on similar answers. For every question on the system it will ask for your answer and your ideal mate's answer. The system knows that some things are important to some people - but maybe not in reverse.

Re: How Races and Religions Match in Online Dating

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post #43

While I love the number crunching ethos, and think these guys are giving it one hell of a go - I will go on the record and say that they will ultimately fail because they are operating under many false premises, a few being: 1. People do not change their minds. By algorithmically matching based on answers to questions, you must assume that those answers are meaningful. And meaningful means CONSISTENT. And people are…

"where is it written that like thinkers make great companions?" OKCupid does not judge match percentage based on similar answers. For every question on the system it will ask for your answer and your ideal mate's answer. The system knows that some things are important to some people - but maybe not in reverse.

4. People Know what they want

Clearly they don't - otherwise they wouldn't be on okcupid in the first place.

Re: How Races and Religions Match in Online Dating

#59
post #43

While I love the number crunching ethos, and think these guys are giving it one hell of a go - I will go on the record and say that they will ultimately fail because they are operating under many false premises, a few being: 1. People do not change their minds. By algorithmically matching based on answers to questions, you must assume that those answers are meaningful. And meaningful means CONSISTENT. And people are…

"By algorithmically matching based on answers to questions, you must assume that those answers are meaningful. And meaningful means CONSISTENT. And people are NOT consistent." In practice, the user base for OkCupid will change. And old users will reanswer questions sometimes too. "Assuming you are even GETTING like thinkers, (which is tenuous at best) where is it written that like thinkers make great companions?" Tha…

Uploading photos isn't what supposedly sets okcupid apart, right? They aren't using physical attractiveness in their matching algorithms and that is the point I was trying to make.

Your other point has been addressed above; people don't know what they want. Asking them what they want their "ideal match" to answer is as foolhardy as asking them to describe their "ideal mate" neuron by neuron.

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