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Do ads in a newspaper "hijack the real world"?
No but billboards do. http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/7897/z7897718Q,Polski-Outdoor.jpg Anyway, I'm not using adblock for the last few years because internet isn't that bad (at least the sites I visit). Before adblock it was awful and I think it was adblock that made it go away. Thanks to users ability to respond we have balance. So this is good that such extensions exist.
Ad blocker that clicks on the ads
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Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads
#122I had no problem with ads up until the point I went to the official online source for a number of print comics, and had my browser forcibly minimized, with a new window spawned in the bottom right corner of my screen designed to look like a Windows alert, trying to trick me into installing malware.
At that point I installed an Adblocker, and have never looked back.
I don't mind disabling it when reminded (Hulu and the like), for certain sites, but until I can be certain that websites with positive reputations won't deliver such scurrilous ads, it stays on by default.
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#123I realize this won't be popular, but I really have no feelings for ad networks. - They allow shoddy security on their servers - They track users against their will - Info on me is sold w/o my knowledge or consent - Ads are a poor business model since they can be blocked - There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs I block all ads, tracking cookies, beacons, all of it... I…
Out of curiousity, if you were to go to one of your favorite sites that is currently ad supported, and the site admin presented a popup that states "We've detected you're using an ad blocker, we respectfully request not visiting our site." Would you respect the request or ignore it?
Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads
#124Just remember that while targeting the ad networks, you're hurting the small publishers (who can't solicit independent advertising) more than the likes of Google. At least in the mid-term, Google can keep charging the same rate for the clicks and still take their cut. If anything, this is making the networks more money. In the long term, this devalues a click. The very moment things turn, the publisher will bear the…
In the long term, this devalues a click. The
very moment things turn...
Why would you expect a sharp turn? Some fraction of clicks on the internet are already fraudulent, and if people start using this product that fraction goes up. But it doesn't really matter because it's all auctioned.Let's say I run a billing service and I've placed ads on searches for "billing service". I find that it costs me $X of advertising per incoming visitor, Y% of these convert into customers, and a new customer is worth $Z to me. I'm willing to bid up to $X x Y% on ads. Now lets say a lots of people switch from blocking ads to giving them fake clicks and now half the clicks on my ads are from this extension. Y% drops by half, because half the visitors from this source are now just browser-extension bots, so I'm only willing to bid half as much. But so is everyone else, which means my new 1/2 x $X x Y% bid is still competitive, and there's twice as much traffic to bid for, so it all comes out the same.
Ad networks take click-fraud very seriously because it's important to their reputation, but the market is actually pretty robust to it.
(Plus this browser extension sounds like it would be really easy for the ad networks to filter out.)
Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads
#125“ Most of you have browsers, and most of those browsers show you advertisements, and I’m very puzzled about why. The advertisements are annoying most of the time, they slow you down, they injure the concentration that you bring to whatever task it is that you’re doing, and there’s no reason why they show you advertisements; my browser doesn’t show me any advertisements. I don’t see any ads when I read The New York Ti…
Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads
#126Maybe the days of site/advertiser direct partnership will come back (see strobist/ midwest photo exchange or xlr8yourmac.com and otherworld computing.)
Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Totally agree. There's something quite mean spirited about this.
There is something also mean-spirited about tracking users. Yeah, yeah, I've heard it's all anonymous, but I've been in the IT industry for a very long time, and I know for a fact they can identify the users with enough time. Because all of this is bought and sold behind the scenes. I would be OK with ads that went straight to the site selling an item with no tracking other than click-thru stats but not using the IP…
It's also just kind of mean. By design it only messes with the sites that you yourself think are worth visiting.
> It's the seedy side of capitalism. Everyone should get the same price
This rant against price discrimination seems like a tangent. The behavior you're describing is something e-commerce sites sometimes do. It doesn't have much to do with ads and blocking ads won't make hotels.com show everyone the same price.
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#128"AdNauseam serves as a means of amplifying users' discontent with advertising networks that disregard privacy and facilitate bulk surveillance agendas." Is it really a privacy issue to track what ads you click and use that information to target advertisements to you later? I never understand the outrage against targeted ads. You are going to get ads no matter what. That is how "free" content works. Would you rather t…
ii) I am[1] a person with alcoholism / gambling addict / person with anorexia / etc. This informs my search habits. Showing alcohol ads is immoral anyway, but showing those ads to a person with alcoholism is sub-optimal for many reasons.
iii) I like gory movies. My 5 year old son enjoys watching some YouTube clips. There's no mechanism to prevent fucking YouTube from showing me ads for gruesome videos even when the clip I'm watching is some child's show.
iv) I am ad-tolerant. But ads just fucking suck and targeted ads suck about the same as random ads. They don't push what I'm interested in, they push what the ad-buyer wants me to be interested in. When I search for "metal detector" I'm not shown ads telling me how to chose a metal detector or why detectors differ. I'm shown ads from metal detector sellers who are peddling some kit of unknown quality at me.
[1] I'm not, but imagine a person that is.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not even close with the analogy. Unless the content is behind a paywall, it's "free". Want to make money? Charge access. If your content is THAT compelling, people will line up and hand you money. Using a backhanded revenue machine like ads that track me and violate my "anonymity" is beyond the pale. So, yes. If I arrive on your site and there is no paywall, I will gladly view said content without allowing ads. If th…
You really want to live in a world where every single site is behind a paywall? because that is what you are advocating.
Re: Ad blocker that clicks on the ads
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
"There is no moral imperative for me to view ads since I've paid to access the Interwebs" When I go to McDonald's, I don't pay for my Big Mac. I already put gas in my car!
Not even close with the analogy. Unless the content is behind a paywall, it's "free". Want to make money? Charge access. If your content is THAT compelling, people will line up and hand you money. Using a backhanded revenue machine like ads that track me and violate my "anonymity" is beyond the pale. So, yes. If I arrive on your site and there is no paywall, I will gladly view said content without allowing ads. If th…
This kind of behavior will only push the movement even more far away from mainstream popularity, slowly becoming a new form of extremism.