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iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

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Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

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post #24

Apple is not a "PRISM" partner; I thought we all agreed that this was when the NSA discovered goto fail and/or some jailbreak exploits.

The Washington Post documents claim otherwise: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-...

That link doesn't contradict xenadu02's claim. Do you have a link that better spells out that Apple is a willing partner in PRISM?

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

#52
post #28

For continuity to work, it should be obvious that what you are working on must be stored somewhere other than the machine you have turned off. The obvious place is on iCloud. Just do not enable continuity if you do not want to enjoy is features.

There is no text editor on iOS, so documents stored in TextEdit are not expected to be subject to Continuity. Additionally, I do not use iA Writer on iOS (nor do I know if there is even an iOS version), so it is reasonable to expect that unsaved drafts I have open in that program would not leave my computer.

I believe the intent is to sync state between Macs, e.g. a MacBook and an iMac.

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

#53

if your so concerns with privacy why are you writing passwords in plain text documents?

A plain text file stored on an encrypted disk image is a pretty decent way to save passwords, as long as you can trust your text editor not to upload your data behind your back (which has generally been a reasonable assumption in the past).

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VMware's vCloud Air does: " To help customers comply with HIPAA and HITECH, VMware offers a Business Associate Agreement (BAA) to all interested customers using our US-based data centers. "[1] [Full disclosure: I work on vCloud Air] [1] http://vcloud.vmware.com/service-offering/security-complianc...

As will AWS, Rackspace, Google, and a few other providers. (List as of "ones I knew of off the top of my head and could quickly verify via Googling.")

Fantastic, this appears to be changing then, because cloud services have been quite hesitant in the past about this.

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

#55
How many hyperbolic, bad faith posts about Yosemite are going to be made and voted to the top at HN? (This is the third I've seen this week, and they all make extremely negative insinuations based on incorrect assumptions and the shallowest possible examination of the functionality being excoriated.)

It appears that the only new functionality in this case is increased visibility via iCloud Drive. Presumably these documents were always saved on iCloud, which has been default behavior when you don't save to the local file system for a while.

As usual, there's an unfounded insinuation that this is intentionally nefarious activity on Apple's part. Documents and Data sync is easily disabled -- what did anyone think it was doing previously?

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

#56
post #23

Interesting, but: There are two kinds of users in this scenario. Those who don't care (99%) and those who do. If you count yourself among the latter group, as I do, then it's always solid advice to choose actions which clarify your intentions. In this case: - don't use iCloud - don't use iCloud sync for the app you use for private data - do explicitly choose to save the file locally - don't enable new features like C…

There are two kinds of users in this scenario. Those who don't care (99%) and those who do.

Correct, and those of us that do should act on behalf of those who don't, because a good many of them are not technically inclined enough to know if they should care.

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

#58
post #57

Could this all be related to continuity features? Not all apps support continuity APIs but I suspect we'll be seeing more and more apple stuff working across devices and one way for this work is by using iCloud. iCloud Drive is just an iCloud service.

No, not directly. If you're logged into iCloud, Documents and Data sync is enabled, the app uses iCloud documents, and you don't save the file locally, the file is saved in iCloud. As far as I recall this is how iCloud has always worked.

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

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post #23

Interesting, but: There are two kinds of users in this scenario. Those who don't care (99%) and those who do. If you count yourself among the latter group, as I do, then it's always solid advice to choose actions which clarify your intentions. In this case: - don't use iCloud - don't use iCloud sync for the app you use for private data - do explicitly choose to save the file locally - don't enable new features like C…

Actually there are 4 kinds of users.

- Those who don't care and will never care

- Those who don't care but will care in the future

- Those who care now and will care in the future

- Those who care now and will not care in the future.

The first one is common. The second one does happen. The third one is more common than the fourth.

I think the amount of users this will affect is greater than you expect.

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