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Teacher spends two days as a student and is shocked at what she learns

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Re: Teacher spends two days as a student and is shocked at what she learns

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post #3

...does she learn how to write clickbait headlines?

The headline must have changed since the link was posted to HN- it's currently "Teacher spends two days as a student and is shocked at what she learns", which is about as matter-of-fact and non-clickbaity as it gets. It's just a literal description of the article contents. What was it originally that was so sensationalistic?

Re: Teacher spends two days as a student and is shocked at what she learns

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post #11
post #3

...does she learn how to write clickbait headlines?

The headline must have changed since the link was posted to HN- it's currently "Teacher spends two days as a student and is shocked at what she learns", which is about as matter-of-fact and non-clickbaity as it gets. It's just a literal description of the article contents. What was it originally that was so sensationalistic?

"$person does $thing and is shocked by what they find/learn/discover" is definitely in the first chapter of the Blogger's Guide To Clickbait Titles.

Re: Teacher spends two days as a student and is shocked at what she learns

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I remember high school.

During class I hid whatever book I actually wanted to read at the time inside the class book and drowned out the teacher.

If homework was worth >10% of the total grade for the class (so that you couldn't get an A from tests/quizzes alone), I would copy the homework from someone else the period before.

Tests & quizzes are so gameable it's a complete joke. Standardized tests even more so. Without any actual learning from the class itself, you can generally come close to ace'ing most high school tests by being moderately intelligent.

There was one class where I got busted for copying the homework and actually had to apply myself for the rest of the semester to avoid being failed, and this was only because the teacher felt I could rise to my potential if challenged to do so. Thankfully, that was actually one of the more interesting classes I had to attend.

I was warned constantly that college was going to tear me apart if I didn't instill good study habits, but it was mostly more of the same. It actually required even less work because most classes relied more heavily on quiz & test scores than High School did. After my freshman year, I went to class about 2 hours a week (out of ~18) and still kept above a 3.5 GPA.

At the two corporate jobs I've held so far, the same formula still seems to apply where you can avoid applying yourself 98% of the time as long as you can shine during the corporate equivalent of "tests."

To date, it's the hardest thing in the world for me to garner the self control to apply myself to a task if I'm not passionate about it (even forcing myself to pay bills is a challenge), and I think a large part of that is due to the fact that I've been able to coast through every "challenge" quite easily, and everything has seemed to work itself out so far.

This next month I'm actually striking out on my own, thankfully on something I'm passionate about (and have been working on for the past six months on the side), and I'm scared to death I won't be able to actually follow through on the hard work required to be successful as an entrepreneur.

Re: Teacher spends two days as a student and is shocked at what she learns

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I do wish that my school had had the block scheduling this school seems to have. We had 8 periods in a day (school was a half period) and they were all ~50 minutes. This is barely enough time to accomplish anything, and days where the classes were shorter (teachers' meetings) then each class was worthless.

The problem is that it's near impossible for a student to pay attention during longer classes. I think you're trying to measure accomplishing things by the amount of material you work through during a given class, instead of by the amount of information the student actually absorbs during that time.

That seemed to be one of the main points in the article, just getting through material was a terrible way to look at classroom learning.

Re: Teacher spends two days as a student and is shocked at what she learns

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This is one of the reasons I like my school. Points 1 and 3 in the article are pretty close to nonexistent.

[1]: We operate on a 4x4 schedule (4 classes August - December, 4 classes January - June). So we sit in one class for 90 minutes, a good time to focus on a task and get it done.

[2]: Issue 2 is a problem with every school I've been in and seen. I can't think of any school that has managed time in a way that will cover curriculum and capture student's attention.

[3]: I'm lucky that my school is only 3 years old, extremely new for my district. I can easily form personal connections with my teachers and administration. My teachers know my extracurriculars and understand if I didn't complete my homework that day (I turn it in later, but I do have to finish it).

Overall, this article was a reflective experience and made me even more thankful of my school.

Re: Teacher spends two days as a student and is shocked at what she learns

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post #3

...does she learn how to write clickbait headlines?

The only thing worse than "clickbait" headlines are comments complaining about clickbait headlines. If you don't like the article - don't read it.

I stopped reading the article after the missing "the" in the third sentence.

Re: Teacher spends two days as a student and is shocked at what she learns

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Why is this so surprising? Wasn't every teacher a high school student at some point? Is the experience so traumatic that they completely forget what the schedule was like once they become teachers themselves?

I'm in my 4th year of teaching, yet I graduated from high school 10 years ago. How well do you remember your daily schedule from 10 years ago? Do you remember what made you restless? What made you tired? What made you stop paying attention? And were you so meta cognizant that you recognized the source of that restlessness?

Doubt it.

It is rare for teachers to have the time to truly consider the student's perspective in their class, and the context of how that fits into the entire school day experience.

EDIT: I should note that I read this article a few days ago. The entire staff at my school held a discussion on how to make school better in that regard. This blog post alone will at minimum affect the 1400 students at our school, but given the number of places I've seen it shared, it will have a much larger impact than that. Always a good reminder.

Re: Teacher spends two days as a student and is shocked at what she learns

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I remember high school. During class I hid whatever book I actually wanted to read at the time inside the class book and drowned out the teacher. If homework was worth >10% of the total grade for the class (so that you couldn't get an A from tests/quizzes alone), I would copy the homework from someone else the period before. Tests & quizzes are so gameable it's a complete joke. Standardized tests even more so. Withou…

I've experienced similar, to a lesser extent (I never cheated, I just didn't do the homework). I also recently struck out on my own and so far I've been successful. In your case, you may want to just farm out all of the non-passion-inducing work. Accountants, book keepers, virtual assistance, all of these are there to help you succeed.
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