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Kissing Your Socks Goodbye

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Re: Kissing Your Socks Goodbye

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Wouldn't it be incredible if this was the attitude of your average American?

Why? What are the "incredible" benefits that you imagine? This is about taking things that once brought you enough "joy" that you bought them and moving them from closets to landfills, probably making room to buy some more joy.

I'm not saying that tidying up is a bad idea--I think it's a good idea--but I'm not sure what imagined consequences have filled you with such rapture.

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Wouldn't it be incredible if this was the attitude of your average American?

Why? What are the "incredible" benefits that you imagine? This is about taking things that once brought you enough "joy" that you bought them and moving them from closets to landfills, probably making room to buy some more joy. I'm not saying that tidying up is a bad idea--I think it's a good idea--but I'm not sure what imagined consequences have filled you with such rapture.

If you are mindful of the things that you have, you tend to acquire less of them.

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My wife and I do a full clean out every year. Our key phrase is "Be ruthless". Some things are obvious tossers, some are obvious keepers, and if it comes to a discussion usually just saying "be ruthless" to the other is enough to force the decision. It's frightening how much stuff you can collect over the year but also how much stuff you kept last year that you no longer care about.

On the other hand, if it's my closet or the landfill (as opposed to reselling, and the associated depreciation and opportunity costs) I'm not in a rush to toss things.

Unless there are circumstances like an impending move, or I am running out of space in the closet.

It's kind of a difficult line to walk. I used to keep way too much stuff. But just yesterday I pulled equipment (tools, a VGA cable, a prototyping board) out of the back of my closet that I hadn't used in four or five years, and was able to save myself a couple hundred bucks (computer repair). That VGA cable occupies very little space.

Re: Kissing Your Socks Goodbye

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My wife and I do a full clean out every year. Our key phrase is "Be ruthless". Some things are obvious tossers, some are obvious keepers, and if it comes to a discussion usually just saying "be ruthless" to the other is enough to force the decision. It's frightening how much stuff you can collect over the year but also how much stuff you kept last year that you no longer care about.

On the other hand, if it's my closet or the landfill (as opposed to reselling, and the associated depreciation and opportunity costs) I'm not in a rush to toss things. Unless there are circumstances like an impending move, or I am running out of space in the closet. It's kind of a difficult line to walk. I used to keep way too much stuff. But just yesterday I pulled equipment (tools, a VGA cable, a prototyping board)…

I would advise you to not completely rule out the tax that every item you own has. Even just looking at a drawer that is full of odds and ends can be stressful. With that said I am all in favor of re-selling things, then someone can get use out of them and overall waste in the system is reduced. Now I just need to sell my $300 jambox that I only used 10 times...

Re: Kissing Your Socks Goodbye

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slightly OT, but I remember seeing the blog of some guy who got rid of everything he owned except for a laptop, a kindle, and some clothes, does anybody remember this person? I've always been fascinated at having as little junk as possible, especially since I've been moving very often recently.

Not the same guy, but figured I might as well put this here. I've been living on what can fit in a suitcase for the past... year or so? Especially now that most of our valuable possessions — photos, writing, music, video — can be digitized, it's awfully liberating to pare your physical inventory down to the bare minimum.

I'm doing this for travel purposes, but the end result is mostly the same, I think.

http://www.archagon.net/a-few-pointless-thoughts/2013/8/28/g...

http://www.archagon.net/a-few-pointless-thoughts/2014/6/15/g...

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Nice methodology described (well, maybe methodology is too heavy a word) by I disliked all the BS self-references and attempts at jokes by the journalist. Either cover your subject with respect or don't.

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post #11
post #10

Wouldn't it be incredible if this was the attitude of your average American?

Why? What are the "incredible" benefits that you imagine? This is about taking things that once brought you enough "joy" that you bought them and moving them from closets to landfills, probably making room to buy some more joy. I'm not saying that tidying up is a bad idea--I think it's a good idea--but I'm not sure what imagined consequences have filled you with such rapture.

"probably making room to buy some more joy" -- that sounds like a stereotypical american interpretation of it. It might also be what the journalist had in mind, but not what the author of the methodology describes.

Re: Kissing Your Socks Goodbye

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, if it's my closet or the landfill (as opposed to reselling, and the associated depreciation and opportunity costs) I'm not in a rush to toss things. Unless there are circumstances like an impending move, or I am running out of space in the closet. It's kind of a difficult line to walk. I used to keep way too much stuff. But just yesterday I pulled equipment (tools, a VGA cable, a prototyping board)…

I would advise you to not completely rule out the tax that every item you own has. Even just looking at a drawer that is full of odds and ends can be stressful. With that said I am all in favor of re-selling things, then someone can get use out of them and overall waste in the system is reduced. Now I just need to sell my $300 jambox that I only used 10 times...

I have never found a drawer full of "odds and ends" stressful: I can see how you might, but from my perspective seeing that drawer is satisfying and soothing, as it means that I'm more likely to have whatever it is that I might need. The tax is only in "whether or not you can find it", which some people have also cited as being stressful, especially when you are trying to find something you know you own but are unable to do so; but, once you realize that throwing something away means you can't find it, it becomes acceptable to sometimes fail to find something and end up with two of them. The secret is just to make certain that the stuff that you don't use often is the stuff most likely to be lost. (Of course, if you can find someone else who will find these things valuable, I'm all for giving the objects away.)

Re: Kissing Your Socks Goodbye

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If you have a compulsive reading disorder[1] and need to shed books, consider http://www.books4cause.com/ -- they will pick up your books and provide a tax deduction receipt. The last time I dealt with them was 176 books, no problem. My local (Queens, NY) libraries weren't so friendly.

[1] http://bit.ly/1w1NT64

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