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If Craigslist cost $1

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Re: If Craigslist cost $1

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post #25

eBay is a great example of how charging money does not curve bogus, repetitive listings or fraud for that matter. A reputation system might go a long way and make people more accountable.

eBay is a great example of how a reputation system does not curb bogus, repetitive listings, or fraud for that matter.

What is the spam/gold ratio on ebay?

The reputation system and the monetary charges do help to curb problem users. The problems are still there, but not as bad as they would be. Or as bad as they are on Craigslist.

On the other hand, the Craigslist approach to fighting this sort of thing is "keep it local." But they've gone as far as they can with that.

Re: If Craigslist cost $1

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post #25

eBay is a great example of how charging money does not curve bogus, repetitive listings or fraud for that matter. A reputation system might go a long way and make people more accountable.

eBay is a great example of how a reputation system does not curb bogus, repetitive listings, or fraud for that matter.

Well, of how their reputation system... There's a lot of room for experimentation.

Re: If Craigslist cost $1

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're established, they can start charging and as far as I know they already are for some categories. They've not got a chicken and egg problem. So I'm not sure what's so 'unbelievably weak'. On a side note, Joel Spolsky was arguing the same point a couple of weeks back on one of the SO podcasts. He obviously said a lot more, being Joel. I'm paraphrasing poorly but one of his better points was that there's a certai…

That was a great podcast and it had me thinking. But what had me thinking more is when I found out that Joel is also subverting journalism with his million dollar plus in yearly revenue job board: http://jobs.joelonsoftware.com . Revenue for the job board was found here: http://www.inc.com/magazine/20090101/how-hard-could-it-be-th...

That's really a great point but Joel's board is not exactly the same as Craig's list. Joel's point was that Craig removed the revenue from classified ads, when the money was being used for the public good. He acknowledged that the classified ads market was fair game, but he disagrees with Craig's view that he's doing the most good keeping it free.

I think there's a notable difference to Craig's list being free vs Joel's job board costing hundreds of dollars to post. ($400 iirc) With Joel's board he's inviting competitors to under cut him, and there's still a thriving job market outside of his control. Craig's list on the other hand could be argued that by keeping the cost to zero he's making it difficult for anyone to make money off of classified ads because there's always a place to go for free ads. And if nobody else can make money at it then they can't have the option to fund Investigative Journalism and democracy and all that.

I do fail to see why any other industry couldn't fund reporting, but classified ads were a good fit.

Now I really enjoyed the argument he made, but I think Joel should put his money where his mouth is. Joel never argued that Craig should fund reporting as a good business decision, he argued that if Craig wants to serve the greater good (which Craig argues he does) funding reporting is a better way to do it. I'd like to see Joel take a % of his job board and fund the greater good. Part of the problem is how does one help fund investigative reporting? I'd say invest in a newspaper but they might not be the best source. He should run some experiments, hire an investigative blogger, start a grant program for reporter interns, stuff like that. It's his money, but this is obviously a topic he feels strongly about.

Re: If Craigslist cost $1

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post #29

Gosh, all that sounds amazing. Let me blow your minds, though: what if CL cost two dollars? This is unbelievably weak. Godin's not exactly on a hot streak right now, is he?

> Let me blow your minds, though: what if CL cost two dollars? It's well understood that the psychological difference between free and $1 is much larger than the difference between $1 and $2.

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Re: If Craigslist cost $1

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post #29

Gosh, all that sounds amazing. Let me blow your minds, though: what if CL cost two dollars? This is unbelievably weak. Godin's not exactly on a hot streak right now, is he?

> Let me blow your minds, though: what if CL cost two dollars? It's well understood that the psychological difference between free and $1 is much larger than the difference between $1 and $2.

So you're saying your mind isn't blown? Hmm, might have to start shaving my head...

Re: If Craigslist cost $1

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No objection to the usability assertions, but there's a huge problem with this idea that Craigslist will now always control the classifieds market no matter what they charge. This meme has caught on recently and it's time for it to die. It's not Craigslist's responsibility to provide journalism or to use their large size to extract profit and solve the world's problems.

If Craigslist charged $1, users would immediately flee to any new competing sites that only charged for job and real estate listings, just like Craigslist does now. Then Seth Godin and Joel Spolsky could complain about those sites' margins instead, and those sites could take those complaints all the way to the bank.

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