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Re: Google Inbox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The video actually caused me to laugh from how cliche it is: A racially diverse group of 20-somethings doing "active" things like skateboarding and running on the beach.

Is that what 20-somethings do (or aspire to do) these days? Skateboarding and hanging out on the beach? Most of my peers and I spent our twenties busting our ass studying and then busting ass establishing a career. I must be getting old--watching that video I couldn't help but think, "It's daylight. Shouldn't you guys be in the office?"

Ads are aspirational, not representational according to mostly everything wrote by thelastpsychiatrist. While they are bust-assing their studies they still aspire to look cool, friendly and careless. Hence the add.

Re: Google Inbox

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post #19

Congrats to Google on shipping! Side question: am I the only person fully satisfied by my email workflow? I practice inbox 0- if an email is in my inbox, it means something needs to be done about it (whether it's replying, filing a bug report, writing a patch, etc). Once it's done, it gets archived. I star the stuff that I'll need to refer to later, like tickets for a flight or concert. I then have a few server side…

Nope you are not alone. IMAP (despite being a technical mess behind the scenes) is my favorite computer technology of all time and has benefitted my life immensely. I would rather have today's email and no modern web than the reverse.

I don't do inbox zero, I do inbox 50k. I just let mail pile up--why not? It only stresses you out if you let it (I don't). Even with a million messages, it's instantly searchable with any decent mail client--and since it is standard IMAP you can use a bunch of different clients just like you use 3-4 different web browsers at the same time.

I have automated filters for stuff like Amazon that's key to my daily life but that I don't usually want to actually see, and the only manual organization I do is annual: I have folders like 2013, 2012, etc back to 1994 (containing all mail in and out). This started because in the old days clients bogged down with more than 20,000 or so messages in one folder. That's mostly not the case these days, but I like the yearly organization, and organizing my correspondence once a year isn't really too annoying, so I continue to do it this way.

I have routed all my faxes and voicemail to my email for 15+ years, too.

And it works on every device I own. For years and years and years.

I think email is about as perfect as computer tech ever gets. Usually instant (but tolerant of a multi-day outage), completely standard and future-proof data, that works on virtually every device and platform currently in use.

Email needs to be disrupted about as much as the hammer needs to be disrupted.

Re: Google Inbox

#294
Oh god, the video? Amazing models doing fun recreational stuff. At the end of the video I didn't feel I knew anymore more about Inbox than I did before.

I mean I get it... but it still feels stupid to do something like that, worse to sit through it and realize you're not watching to be informed by substance, you're watching to be convinced by style.

Re: Google Inbox

#295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't integrate multiple accounts into a single inbox, if that's what you mean. It works the same as Gmail in that respect.

That's a massive shame. Weird that Mailbox/Dropbox manages to do it with Gmail, but Google doesn't.

I believe it's intentional (for privacy/usability reasons), so that it's always clear which account's emails you are reading and which you are replying to. I don't think it's a technical issue.

Re: Google Inbox

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Here's what I got in response to my invite request: Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: inbox@inbox.gmrservice.ext.google.com Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the relay gmr-smtp-in.l.google.com by gmr-smtp-in.l.google.com. [2607:f8b0:400e:c04::e]. We recommend contacting the other email provider at postmaster@gmr-smtp-in.l.google.…

I like the irony of using a conventional email message to request beta access to the next generation of email too.

Aside from the fact that Inbox is still email, this is called "bootstrapping".

Re: Google Inbox

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I've been using Inbox at El Goog for a while now, and I am happy to answer questions (in between dealing with a newborn...) FWIW, I really like it, and use it exclusively for my work and personal accounts. Inbox functions very much more like a ToDo list than it does an email client. Here are the workflows I have: Work: I filter all mailing lists into different clusters that I have appear at 7AM every morning. I then…

Does it have ads?

Re: Google Inbox

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This looks very much like Mailbox, in particular the swipe left and right to archive/snooze a message.

This looks very much like the end of Mailbox. If execution is half-decent (and it's a big "if", I haven't tried it yet), GMail users from now on will have no use for Mailbox or MailPilot.

Re: Google Inbox

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post #19

Congrats to Google on shipping! Side question: am I the only person fully satisfied by my email workflow? I practice inbox 0- if an email is in my inbox, it means something needs to be done about it (whether it's replying, filing a bug report, writing a patch, etc). Once it's done, it gets archived. I star the stuff that I'll need to refer to later, like tickets for a flight or concert. I then have a few server side…

Emails have several issues:

Large % of emails are newsletters, notifications, offers and promotions. This is not spam (I think we have got that under control). These are the things you intentionally subscribed to and "nice to know" but not important or urgent. Email clients are utterly oblivious to identifieng and ranking them (Gmail's Priority Inbox is rather dumb baby steps).

Replying to threads and quoting previous replies is a pain. Threads become too long with several different colored highlights all over.

There is no easy way to control your membership in email conversation. It's hard to get out and hard to get in. Creating groups is high friction. Sharing previous conversations with someone or a group is non-practical.

Most email clients rank emails using date time. You can say that 70% of the human generated content uses perhaps most naive ranking algorithm. It is mind boggling that we still don't use signals like age of conversation, length, participants, topic, embedded action items etc. Even in 2014, most email clients will happily push email sent at 9AM for your house on fire after the benign Groupon promotion sent on 10 AM.

Emails are free form and there are poorly defined standards standards to add structured data such as reminders and action items for recipients, auto-expiration, callback number etc.

You can't share your "like" or upvote/downvotes for emails sent to a group. This severally limits how much social expression can be attached to emails flowing within a group.

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