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Progress Software to Acquire Telerik for $263M

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Re: Progress Software to Acquire Telerik for $263M

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I just hope Carl and Richard at the .NET Rocks podcast can find a new sponsor or figure out some other option to keep their great show going. Seems like Telerik has been their main sponsor forever.

Richard is (was?) on the board of Telerik also. I've contacted DNR to try and organise sponsorship and never heard back from them.

Re: Progress Software to Acquire Telerik for $263M

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Telerik makes awful .Net components. I have used them in past. I was frustrated with their breaking changes, they had the worst release management. Every year they used to release new version and used to outright removed the methods or replace the signatures. No Deprecation!

Yes. I had RadControls inflicted upon me once.

I, like many people here by the looks, spent a good deal of time removing them. We had one issue where the page response with an AJAX Manager (or whatever it was called) was 5x as slow than a full page refresh. Turns out it was POSTing 2Mb of crap for some reason.

I'd rather eat my own poop that use their software again.

Re: Progress Software to Acquire Telerik for $263M

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Telerik makes awful .Net components. I have used them in past. I was frustrated with their breaking changes, they had the worst release management. Every year they used to release new version and used to outright removed the methods or replace the signatures. No Deprecation!

I have to strongly disagree. I have used their Sliverlight components in every SL project I have been involved with for the last four years and I could`t live without them. They are professional components for enterprise which does something that a open-source project could seldom( maybe never) do, support all the odd-cases needed. These are all the weird cases that no one would bother to implement in an OS-project,…

Thanks for the "OS" rant. You should use the proper term, Free Software, next time: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point....

Re: Progress Software to Acquire Telerik for $263M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to strongly disagree. I have used their Sliverlight components in every SL project I have been involved with for the last four years and I could`t live without them. They are professional components for enterprise which does something that a open-source project could seldom( maybe never) do, support all the odd-cases needed. These are all the weird cases that no one would bother to implement in an OS-project,…

Try Infragistics, you will never look back.

Both Telerik and Infragistics have their main development offices in Sofia, Bulgaria. From what I've heard most of Infragististics developers/testers/managers have worked for Telerik in the past and there is a considerable current in the other direction as well. I wouldn't expect a massive difference in the quality.

Re: Progress Software to Acquire Telerik for $263M

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In the past 8 years I've been involved in more projects to remove Telerik than to use it. The performance and long term maintenability of these drag and drop with no code! components are never well advertised. But I guess it solved a massive issue when companies thought design was cheaper with a consistent skin, forgetting that their programmers would still need to layout everything.

I'm using the Telerik Reporting product. I have to agree that the promoted drag and drop approach is pretty pathetic. Though using it at a programmable level hasn't been too bad. I've been able to do most things I've needed to do without too much heartache.

We briefly evaluated Telerik Reporting, but when a support technician during a technical conversation referred to 16,000 rows as "a large data set" that pretty much turned us off to it.

Re: Progress Software to Acquire Telerik for $263M

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I agree. Seems like we even had problems with incremental releases... removed methods and changed signatures.

So i was working on a small decision support system for a hospital. Some designer recommended their chart control and i used it in project. In final stage, client asked for empty values support, i check and found that in next release they have this feature. So i said yes and gave them 1 week estimate. Assuming all i have to do is replace radchart dll. But, I was wrong. I upgraded the Radchart and found 70% code is no…

You just need to be more agile.

Re: Progress Software to Acquire Telerik for $263M

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post #18
post #6

Telerik makes awful .Net components. I have used them in past. I was frustrated with their breaking changes, they had the worst release management. Every year they used to release new version and used to outright removed the methods or replace the signatures. No Deprecation!

I have to strongly disagree. I have used their Sliverlight components in every SL project I have been involved with for the last four years and I could`t live without them. They are professional components for enterprise which does something that a open-source project could seldom( maybe never) do, support all the odd-cases needed. These are all the weird cases that no one would bother to implement in an OS-project,…

What is the benefit of using KendoUI over any of the free JS options available? Edge cases again?

Re: Progress Software to Acquire Telerik for $263M

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And how exactly is 263M for 10 years "going downhill"?

Every large number sounds impressive, don't get yourself caught in that mind-trap. Divide the number by their employees, check earnings/winnings, subtract investments, compare to other companies and draw your conclusions again. If I make $1000000/year, that's great. But if it takes me 1000 people to do it, that's less than $100 per person per month.

It was bootstrapped, from what I know the original 4 founders used to own 80% of the company a year or so ago.

Re: Progress Software to Acquire Telerik for $263M

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post #29

Hmmmm, apparently I'm the only one here with a positive experience. I've used their Windows Phone and Windows 8 components and I really really like them. They are much, much faster than their opensource counterparts, they are very flexible and advanced and Telerik's support is great. I always get answers within 24 hours, and they often provide a complete solution/project with samples.

You are not the only one. People tend to share the negative stuff first though. No company like Telerik can reach this state without a value given to their customers.

HN has become very negative in the recent years. Only stuff build by Apple and Google gets mostly positive comments.
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