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Re: FrootVPN – Surf anonymously on the Internet

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received email with password in plaintext after registration

I was just going to say the same thing. What the hell kind of group offers security and VPN services and then sends passwords plaintext!

They will need to store them in plain text or encrypted plain text (which is just plain text with sugar on top) just due to the way some of the VPN protocols they support work.

They should avoid emailing them however, if they can.

Re: FrootVPN – Surf anonymously on the Internet

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1. We offer a free service. 2. With free support. 3. And we somehow have enough ips to go around for everyone? 4. Btw, we are not MITMing you or logging anything. What?

You know what they always say, when something is free, you are the product.

This phrase should be put down with a shot in a back of its metaphorical head. Whisper Systems, TOR, tox are free. Should we apply the same principle to those products?

(I am not defending this shady VPN service)

Re: FrootVPN – Surf anonymously on the Internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know what they always say, when something is free, you are the product.

This phrase should be put down with a shot in a back of its metaphorical head. Whisper Systems, TOR, tox are free. Should we apply the same principle to those products? (I am not defending this shady VPN service)

This phrase refers to stuff free as in free beer.

Re: FrootVPN – Surf anonymously on the Internet

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1. We offer a free service. 2. With free support. 3. And we somehow have enough ips to go around for everyone? 4. Btw, we are not MITMing you or logging anything. What?

You don't need enough IPs to go around; you can always assign a private IP address and do NAT (this is how most VPNs work anyway).

But yeah, I don't understand how they're paying for it. My best guess would be they found a loophole to exploit peering agreements, similar to how small rural telephone companies will set up free conference bridges because the big telcos have to pay them connection fees.

Or they're just capturing info and selling it (unlikely; personal information just isn't worth that much and it's easy enough to buy already from data brokers).

Or they're MITMing the big ad networks and showing their own ads instead. I consider this the most likely scenario.

Re: FrootVPN – Surf anonymously on the Internet

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This phrase should be put down with a shot in a back of its metaphorical head. Whisper Systems, TOR, tox are free. Should we apply the same principle to those products? (I am not defending this shady VPN service)

This phrase refers to stuff free as in free beer.

And Whisper Systems, TOR, tox are free as in free beer. What's your point?

Re: FrootVPN – Surf anonymously on the Internet

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I'm not quite sure what the appeal of free VPN services are, or why anyone would trust them.

Setting up a VPN server takes very little time. From a default Ubuntu installation you only need to install the OpenVPN Access Server package, visit a web page and add a user.

You can do this from a cloud service provider in a location with favorable privacy laws, like Iceland. I do this with GreenQloud, and just spin up my VPN instance when I'm on an untrustworthy wifi network, behind a corporate firewall, traveling to a country that censors, or whatever. Powered on instances cost little, and powered off nearly nothing. The attack surface is low, as it's usually powered off.

People who wish to be nearly untraceable can use a prepaid credit card for anonymity.

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