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Raspberry Pi Founder Shows Off Incoming Touch Panel for Making DIY ‘Pi Pads’

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The Raspberry Pi is a developer board which brings out the pins of an ARM chip designed for use in low-end tablets. If you want a tablet using the same chip, you can easily buy one. The price point on Alibaba is about $30-$50. Even on Amazon you can get one for $50.

That's fine, IF those things can be rooted and have released any proprietary drivers so you can load your preferred ARM-compatible Linux distro.

If, however, you want to run Plan 9, RISC OS, FreeBSD, Haiku, or anything else that isn't Linux, then you'd probably still come unstuck regardless of Alibaba's openness.

Re: Raspberry Pi Founder Shows Off Incoming Touch Panel for Making DIY ‘Pi Pads’

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The Raspberry Pi is a developer board which brings out the pins of an ARM chip designed for use in low-end tablets. If you want a tablet using the same chip, you can easily buy one. The price point on Alibaba is about $30-$50. Even on Amazon you can get one for $50.

The pi is made in the UK, it does not make it better but it might be important for some people.

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The Raspberry Pi is a developer board which brings out the pins of an ARM chip designed for use in low-end tablets. If you want a tablet using the same chip, you can easily buy one. The price point on Alibaba is about $30-$50. Even on Amazon you can get one for $50.

The chip on the Pi was designed for set-top boxes, not tablets.

Re: Raspberry Pi Founder Shows Off Incoming Touch Panel for Making DIY ‘Pi Pads’

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Since the Pi is meant to be for education, what I think would further this goal is to turn the Pi into a graphing calculator as a replacement for the TI series that is currently required in many high schools / colleges. So you would take the basic design, add the case, battery, button pad, cheap screen. Think of a calculator that has the Pi's SD slot, HDMI, USB, GPIO, etc ports. When used in class or on tests, it can…

> every high school already requires a $100 graphing calculator

I can't help but feel this is a historical aberration, and one that is bound to correct itself eventually. The reason it's so entrenched at the moment is, I imagine, standardisation--which is why a custom raspberry pi solution would not be suitable.

As an side, I'm not entirely sure why a graphing calculator is even required anyway. I never used one once in my entire school curriculum, and don't feel like I suffered for it. Being able to plot a function by hand is something of a skill in its own right because it teaches you the analytical tools to be able to learn how a function behaves, and as long as the teacher knows the correct solution there's nothing to be gained from every individual student having their own calculator.

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post #12
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The Raspberry Pi is a developer board which brings out the pins of an ARM chip designed for use in low-end tablets. If you want a tablet using the same chip, you can easily buy one. The price point on Alibaba is about $30-$50. Even on Amazon you can get one for $50.

That's fine, IF those things can be rooted and have released any proprietary drivers so you can load your preferred ARM-compatible Linux distro. If, however, you want to run Plan 9, RISC OS, FreeBSD, Haiku, or anything else that isn't Linux, then you'd probably still come unstuck regardless of Alibaba's openness.

in terms of buying products from alibaba, most equipment on their uses the MTK tool chain. MTK offers full drivers to run most of their hardware, and can run under a multitude of Android OS is. I also have a friend who took the MTK tool chain and installed debian on his HaiPai Noble N7889 phone. It didn't run very well at all, but it did run.

Re: Raspberry Pi Founder Shows Off Incoming Touch Panel for Making DIY ‘Pi Pads’

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Since the Pi is meant to be for education, what I think would further this goal is to turn the Pi into a graphing calculator as a replacement for the TI series that is currently required in many high schools / colleges. So you would take the basic design, add the case, battery, button pad, cheap screen. Think of a calculator that has the Pi's SD slot, HDMI, USB, GPIO, etc ports. When used in class or on tests, it can…

> every high school already requires a $100 graphing calculator I can't help but feel this is a historical aberration, and one that is bound to correct itself eventually. The reason it's so entrenched at the moment is, I imagine, standardisation--which is why a custom raspberry pi solution would not be suitable. As an side, I'm not entirely sure why a graphing calculator is even required anyway. I never used one once…

> I never used one once in my entire school curriculum, and don't feel like I suffered for it.

I'm glad someone else said this, because I wasn't going to admit to it. I got through 4 years of high school math and science, and four years as a CS major/math minor and I don't remember ever using anything other than the permutation/combination functions and some basic graphing. The TI-83 was much more important in getting me into programming than doing real math.

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Since the Pi is meant to be for education, what I think would further this goal is to turn the Pi into a graphing calculator as a replacement for the TI series that is currently required in many high schools / colleges. So you would take the basic design, add the case, battery, button pad, cheap screen. Think of a calculator that has the Pi's SD slot, HDMI, USB, GPIO, etc ports. When used in class or on tests, it can…

Most people I know buy second hand TIs which aren't expensive. They are around the $20-50 (GBP conversion) mark here in the UK. The Pi is not exactly a good proposition for a calculator either based on form factor and power usage. Also you really do need a tactile input system for calculators as they help avoid costly and confusing mistakes. I'm not sure why there is so much hate for TI to be honest; they are very fu…

I'm not sure there is really hate for TI calculators, but rather a general sense of "wtf are we paying for" when they've been the same spec and the same price for 20 years. No one really thinks they're bad calculators, but really they should be $20 by now, with a $100 color version or something to round out the high end.

Re: Raspberry Pi Founder Shows Off Incoming Touch Panel for Making DIY ‘Pi Pads’

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The Raspberry Pi is a developer board which brings out the pins of an ARM chip designed for use in low-end tablets. If you want a tablet using the same chip, you can easily buy one. The price point on Alibaba is about $30-$50. Even on Amazon you can get one for $50.

Actually the Chinese tablets use different SoCs from the RPi - I don't know of any that use a Broadcom one.

Allwinner, Mediatek, Rockchip, and VIA are far more common; and the interesting thing is, it's easier to find hardware-level documentation for many of these than Broadcom's SoCs.

http://linux-sunxi.org/Allwinner_SoC_Family

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