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Re: Shop with a Girl

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Post by cfcosta »

Dewie wrote: post #25
2xlbuds wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotal, I know, but 18-19 is when most people go to college, and get to shed whatever labels they had in high school. It certainly happened that way with me and my college friends.

You mean going from a pretty gender balanced high school, to a department with a large majority of men? (we were talking about nerds here, and I am talking about things like CS departments, since this is HN.)

And also to a place where no one will judge you because you're a nerd. My CS classes where pretty gender-balanced, more so than my high school, and I can assure you that's not the problem.

Re: Shop with a Girl

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Post by rabbyte »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #32
teddyh wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No one is making you or anyone else to "feel" anything from this product. I don’t understand this argument. Of course a narrative which consistently calls clothes shoppers “girls” and non-shoppers “guys” is going to affect the way I feel about my identity.

Only if your identity is affected by every ad you read...have some backbone. This is a cool thing, for those that need it. No more stereotyped than "I let my spouse buy my clothes because I have no sense of style". Its just a statement, true for some people. Its got nothing at all to do with anybody's identity.

You can't be serious. So now the message is girls typically understand style, guys typically don't, and if you dislike that message then maybe you're just easily influenced by advertising. As a guy that loves fashion, the message is clearly "You're an exception to the rule" and the rule is a stereotype.

Re: Shop with a Girl

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Post by partywithalocal »

Well that escalated quickly. It is a bit of a tongue in cheek, very early-stage, idea and the name definitely divides opinion, but pretty surprised how strongly people feel about it. Despite all the public negative comments here about how unbelievably sexist it is, private feedback has been positive - from both sexes, and in fact more females are signing up on the site than males at the moment... what does this mean?

Re: Shop with a Girl

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Post by teddyh »

partywithalocal wrote: post #45

Well that escalated quickly. It is a bit of a tongue in cheek, very early-stage, idea and the name definitely divides opinion, but pretty surprised how strongly people feel about it. Despite all the public negative comments here about how unbelievably sexist it is, private feedback has been positive - from both sexes, and in fact more females are signing up on the site than males at the moment... what does this mean?

It could certainly mean that people both conform to, and are blind to, prevailing stereotypes. This, however, is not a good enough reason to perpetuate them.

Re: Shop with a Girl

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

partywithalocal wrote: post #45

Well that escalated quickly. It is a bit of a tongue in cheek, very early-stage, idea and the name definitely divides opinion, but pretty surprised how strongly people feel about it. Despite all the public negative comments here about how unbelievably sexist it is, private feedback has been positive - from both sexes, and in fact more females are signing up on the site than males at the moment... what does this mean?

Maybe confusing what people actually feel, with what they post on HN. Righteous indignation feels good, is easy to come up with, and gets upvoted quickly. But does it reflect sober reflection? Probably not.

Re: Shop with a Girl

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

rabbyte wrote: post #44
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if your identity is affected by every ad you read...have some backbone. This is a cool thing, for those that need it. No more stereotyped than "I let my spouse buy my clothes because I have no sense of style". Its just a statement, true for some people. Its got nothing at all to do with anybody's identity.

You can't be serious. So now the message is girls typically understand style, guys typically don't, and if you dislike that message then maybe you're just easily influenced by advertising. As a guy that loves fashion, the message is clearly "You're an exception to the rule" and the rule is a stereotype.

Have you actually looked at any advertising lately? Billboard? Magazine ad? TV commercial? This is the mildest tongue-in-cheek 'hire somebody with talent you lack' ad I can imagine.

Re: Shop with a Girl

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Post by drglitch »

partywithalocal wrote: post #45

Well that escalated quickly. It is a bit of a tongue in cheek, very early-stage, idea and the name definitely divides opinion, but pretty surprised how strongly people feel about it. Despite all the public negative comments here about how unbelievably sexist it is, private feedback has been positive - from both sexes, and in fact more females are signing up on the site than males at the moment... what does this mean?

based on the other comment, i see you're the submitter? I like the username - i guess thats the next show-nh we should expect? :)

I think the opinions given are very relevant - people just feel strongly about unnecessary stereotypes, most of which either disappear or become a fixable "skill" by adulthood. It would seem that advice given here is: focus on the more mature audience.

As an aside (based on your username and in my humble opinion), party-with-a-local/personal-guide-to-city is a much better idea - in fact, i recently got a related domain name in NYC.

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