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Re: Soda May Age You as Much as Smoking

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Post by SupremumLimit »

DanBC wrote: post #59
aragot wrote: post #53

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> not have undiluted fruit juices Why? (with links if you can - thanks)

dental hygiene and creating good habits. Tooth removal is an avoidable problem, but a significant cause of hospitalised children in England. http://www.child-smile.org.uk/parents-and-carers/birth-to-3-... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10964323/Tooth-... > Almost 26,000 primary school children were treated for tooth decay in the past year, making it the most common reason youngsters are admitted to hosp…

It's also a serious issue in New Zealand. It's exacerbated by children running around with sippy cups which allow constant contact between teeth and juice (or worse, sugary drinks).

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Post by a8da6b0c91d »

DanBC wrote: post #59
aragot wrote: post #53

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> not have undiluted fruit juices Why? (with links if you can - thanks)

dental hygiene and creating good habits. Tooth removal is an avoidable problem, but a significant cause of hospitalised children in England. http://www.child-smile.org.uk/parents-and-carers/birth-to-3-... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10964323/Tooth-... > Almost 26,000 primary school children were treated for tooth decay in the past year, making it the most common reason youngsters are admitted to hosp…

Tooth decay is caused by vitamin and mineral deficiencies, not sugar consumed during meals. Orange juice and other fruit juices are excellent sources of vitamins and minerals.

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Post by bequanna »

a8da6b0c91d wrote: post #48
DanBC wrote: post #41

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> It's nice to have another datapoint against some of the bro-sciencey "Fruit juice has as much sugar as soda" arguments. Go careful, that's not all broscience. Children especially should not have undiluted fruit juices.

Children have massive metabolic demands for sugars to support growth. Children should have as much undiluted fruit juice as they want.

Yikes!

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or serious.

Childhood obesity is a serious issue. Heck, even type-2 childhood diabetes is a growing concern.

Do you have any support at all to justify this claim?

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Post by anigbrowl »

DanBC wrote: post #55
a8da6b0c91d wrote: post #48

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Children have massive metabolic demands for sugars to support growth. Children should have as much undiluted fruit juice as they want.

You are wrong and you should declare your weird shilling for the sugar industry. http://www.child-smile.org.uk/parents-and-carers/birth-to-3-... > Small amounts of pure, unsweetened fruit juice should be diluted half and half (50% juice to 50% water), or with a greater proportion of water to juice if your child is thirsty. > Juice should be restricted to mealtimes only in a free-flow cup, not a feeding bottle.

Castigating someone for shilling for the sugar industry in the context of unsweetened fruit juice makes no sense. The guidelines you cite are obviously infants and toddlers. I suspect the poster above is thinking of more active older children. Accusing him/her of being a paid PR person is unjustified and unnecessary.

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Post by boydjd »

novalis78 wrote: post #34
boydjd wrote: post #25

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What are you drinking instead of soda in your country?

That question - in and by itself - gives you away as an American. As a central European who grew up on water, fruit juice (80-60% water thinned) and tea (green, herb and on and off black) it made me chuckle. I have never seen so much soda consumption anywhere on this planet before coming to the US.

A lot of the "fruit juice" (in America, at least) contains just as much HFCS as soda.

I don't know if this is the case in the rest of the world or in this study though.

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Post by a8da6b0c91d »

bequanna wrote: post #73
a8da6b0c91d wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Children have massive metabolic demands for sugars to support growth. Children should have as much undiluted fruit juice as they want.

Yikes! I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or serious. Childhood obesity is a serious issue. Heck, even type-2 childhood diabetes is a growing concern. Do you have any support at all to justify this claim?

Sugars in the context of adequate minerals, vitamins, and proteins support growth. Foods like fruit juices and potatoes are nearly perfect in this sense. If you want short, dumb kids please starve them of highly usable metabolic energy and nutrients.

Obviously this is not an invitation to stuff a sedentary kid full of excess calories to the point of adiposity. Be sensible.

Cite the study is a game for retards in these venues.

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Post by Afforess »

geoka9 wrote: post #9

It's hard for me to understand the whole soda phenomenon in Canada and the US. Is it as addictive as cigarettes? Does it make you crave for more? Or it simply tastes so good that you can't get enough of it? Why not eat a bunch of apples instead (if you don't care about the amount of sugar you consume)? Wouldn't they taste better?

I drink (diet) soda because I need caffeine in the mornings. I am not a morning person and never have been. Without caffeine, I will not be mentally alert before 11am.

I hate the taste of coffee, so soda it is.

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Post by johnward »

stealthlogic wrote: post #61
johnward wrote: post #38

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I don't think it matters but chances are it's HFCS.

It matters.

I guess it matters because it might actually prove our bodies handle HFCS and Sugar differently. I have never seen that proven anywhere else.

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Post by johnward »

ssmoot wrote: post #35
ep103 wrote: post #26

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I think its generally understood that most artificial sweeteners are seen as sugar by the body, but don't actually get turned into sugar in the bloodstream. So it makes sense that it might contribute to diabetes (your body digests it like sugar), but not aging (which is accelerated by sugar in the bloodstream). I believe the whole point of coke 0 is that it doesn't use an artificial sweetener? But don't quote me on t…

I could be wrong, but I thought Coke Zero was just the name for Diet Coke with Sucralose instead of Aspartame.

I thought so too but if you look at the ingredients they both use aspartame.

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Post by a8da6b0c91d »

DanBC wrote: post #55
a8da6b0c91d wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Children have massive metabolic demands for sugars to support growth. Children should have as much undiluted fruit juice as they want.

You are wrong and you should declare your weird shilling for the sugar industry. http://www.child-smile.org.uk/parents-and-carers/birth-to-3-... > Small amounts of pure, unsweetened fruit juice should be diluted half and half (50% juice to 50% water), or with a greater proportion of water to juice if your child is thirsty. > Juice should be restricted to mealtimes only in a free-flow cup, not a feeding bottle.

It is for these reasons we should ban breast feeding. Human breast milk has a sugar content higher than ice cream! It is obviously unsafe for babies to be exposed to so much sugar.
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