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Introducing Phoenix, Swift set free

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Re: Introducing Phoenix, Swift set free

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Interesting it seems to be more about building an open version of the iPhone called 'stratosphere' (see this https://source.ind.ie/project/ind-ie/blob/master/source/inde...) Given that Apple went all patent troll on Google's Android licensees and patents, unlike copyrights, cannot be avoided by re-expression, I'm wondering about the strategy of making an open phone. Easily doable in 20 years (post patent expiration) but hard at the moment.

Re: Introducing Phoenix, Swift set free

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I'm glad somebody is doing something about this. Swift deserves better than to serve as a pair of golden handcuffs. I remember back when Swift was first announced, people said they were sure Apple intended to make Swift free once it was ready for release. Sadly, Apple didn't live up to people's expectations on this one.

Re: Introducing Phoenix, Swift set free

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I can't find a license?

This. Pretty Ironic (And I opened the source tree, which doesn't have the licence either). Besides, wouldn't the best way to start this sort of thing be to write an LLVM frontend, rather than a new main.c?

I get the impression more time has been spent on the "Launch Site" than the actual "Product".

Re: Introducing Phoenix, Swift set free

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post #4

Interesting it seems to be more about building an open version of the iPhone called 'stratosphere' (see this https://source.ind.ie/project/ind-ie/blob/master/source/inde... ) Given that Apple went all patent troll on Google's Android licensees and patents, unlike copyrights, cannot be avoided by re-expression, I'm wondering about the strategy of making an open phone. Easily doable in 20 years (post patent expiration)…

I think "stratosphere" is the Cloud platform. The phone from AFAIK is Indie Phone.

Re: Introducing Phoenix, Swift set free

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Aren't they probably just holding off on open sourcing it until...it's finished. I know they've just shipped '1.0' but I think they're still making pretty big changes.

What's the last programming language you can think of that was really "finished" in any sense besides "shipped an X.0 version"?

"When it's completely finished" is essentially synonymous with "when it's dead."

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