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Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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You mean like the iPod was cannibalized by the iPhone, more or less, and it's revenues have been steadily declining (-28% this quarter compared to Q4 2013)?

Kind of like how iPod Nano cannibalized iPod Mini.

Nano came after Mini, which would be the expected pattern of canibalization. OP's point was older product category canibalizing newer one.

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Apple at $12 (pre split, ca 1996) is the whale that got away of my investment career.

My (non-tech) friend was sighing about this too, until he thought some more and realized he would have certainly sold it at $20. Which would possibly be an even worse feeling.

Yep. IIRC, The delay was due to not getting a brokerage account setup properly, and then having the stock pop from 12 (almost book value, or $4billion) to $17. At which point I decided that the move had already happened.

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It's fascinating to me that the iPad is flat and being effectively cannibalized by the iPhone. Can anyone think of a similar example where a newer form factor gets re-absorbed or passed by the previous form factor? (I probably need a more elegant way to say this)

It's actually pretty smart. They are allowing cannibalization of the iPad to the iPhone Plus because the margins on the iPhone Plus are higher, and people actually upgrade it every 2 years. I don't know a single person, including myself, that has had any impetus to upgrade their iPad, so this is a way of shifting people over to a phone model where there is a more defined upgrade cycle.

I agree, just want to point out that if the iPad is used for gaming it gives one a compelling reason to upgrade. I bought a new iPad because hearthstone ran like crap on my iPad 2.

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Wonder why China is so flat year-over-year. I thought that was where the next growth was coming from. Last quarter China was up 28% year-over-year.

Probably because the iPhone 6 and 6+ weren't released in Q4, so you'll see the China growth effect in 2015 Q1 instead (and hence the optimistic guidance for Q1 2015).

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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I'm long in apple for several reasons:

1. Apple's P/E is way to low for a company that literally sells the best and highest rated products on the market. Historically you pay a P/E _premium_ for these types of stocks, not a discount. The company is downright cheap.

2. ApplePay has a ton of potential. Just in the other news thread others were complaining that moving to chip & pin cards is basically just changing the fraud, not fixing it. ApplePay's tech passes the smell test, and the people who will be using it have expendable money.

3. The Apple Watch. Who knows how it will sell? I will say I am always impressed with Apple's design and polish and it's hard to picture a crappy product. Maybe it's a hit or maybe it just raises their bottom line, either way it's unlikely to drag on profits.

We'll see how it works out. These earnings include only 6 days of iPhone 6 sales... I worry about Apple in my portfolio probably the least compared to other stocks in the S&P 500. It pays a dividend for crying out loud! I have to remind myself not go over diversification rules...

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Apple at $12 (pre split, ca 1996) is the whale that got away of my investment career.

My dad still remembers (and complains about) when his stockbroker was calling him begging him to buy stock in the nearly bankrupt Apple saying it was a good opportunity. Even a tiny investment would've paid off easily even by the mid 2000s.

But most people would probably sell when they double or triple their money. You'd have to be insanely prophetic to hold on to the stock this whole time without taking profit.
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