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Re: Corpus of network communications automatically sent to Apple by Yosemite

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Is the data sent to Apple personally identifiable? How long is it retained? If the NSA (inevitably) decides to crash the party, what is the nature of the information that they walk away with?

These are all questions that should have readily available answers.

Re: Corpus of network communications automatically sent to Apple by Yosemite

#82

Is the data sent to Apple personally identifiable? How long is it retained? If the NSA (inevitably) decides to crash the party, what is the nature of the information that they walk away with? These are all questions that should have readily available answers.

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Re: Corpus of network communications automatically sent to Apple by Yosemite

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Funny - just compare how Ubuntu was bashed for Amazon lens in Unity and how differently Apple is treated for the same (or even worse) things here on HN

My mac has not yet shown me advertisements for when I was looking for my files.

It does show "advertisements" of the same type as Ubuntu did.

http://i.imgur.com/1hdtCjB.png?1

In fact, this shows two. Enabled by default in a release product.

IIRC, Ubuntu never shipped with said feature.

Re: Corpus of network communications automatically sent to Apple by Yosemite

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post #2

Funny - just compare how Ubuntu was bashed for Amazon lens in Unity and how differently Apple is treated for the same (or even worse) things here on HN

I see the opposite, but I always try to remind myself that it's just my (and your) bias showing and not comment on it, because I would almost certainly be wrong.

For example, the highly inflammatory title for yesterday's submission (no privacy by design) stayed unmoderated for the entire day, until it went off the front page.

This issue has had multiple submissions in the past two days and they received plenty of votes, it doesn't seem "HN" is giving it preferential treatment.

Re: Corpus of network communications automatically sent to Apple by Yosemite

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I'm very glad for that thread. I didn't know that I also needed to uncheck "Include Spotlight Suggestions" in Safari additionally to Preferences. I do not understand why there's such a backlash against anyone that points out that: 1. It's not intuitive to have to both disable "Include Spotlight Suggestions" in Safari and in Preferences. 2. People like my father who are privacy conscious but are average computer users…

The text when you open spotlight explains that it's looking on the internet. The first icon is safari. Every search you do, including siri, kortana, and ok google sends information to the respective company. Apparently bendgate didn't satisfy the fans, so they had to come up with a tortured reason to be all upset. I really tire of this horse shit, and would expect better.

When I do a search on my local computer, say for a file or some email, there's no reason that data should go to Apple.

Re: Corpus of network communications automatically sent to Apple by Yosemite

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no - I'm suggesting both situations are equally unpleasant for users and HN crowd tends to absolve Apple for any 'crimes' they commit - it's just funny (I'm using both Ubuntu and Mac on a regular basis)

I'm not clear why it's unpleasant and the pejorative use of 'crime' is one that puts my back up over this. Spotlight's function is clearly stated and easily disabled. It is simply alarmism and sensationalism. The same can be reasonably said of the Amazon/Ubuntu debacle. TFA doesn't indicate who the 3rd parties are (other than a frankly 'trollish' reference to Microsoft) or what they are transmitting; other than searc…

being honest - I don't care that much. Really interesting (and somehow funny) are all those Apple apologists trying to rationalize/justify everything Apple does.

Re: Corpus of network communications automatically sent to Apple by Yosemite

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not clear why it's unpleasant and the pejorative use of 'crime' is one that puts my back up over this. Spotlight's function is clearly stated and easily disabled. It is simply alarmism and sensationalism. The same can be reasonably said of the Amazon/Ubuntu debacle. TFA doesn't indicate who the 3rd parties are (other than a frankly 'trollish' reference to Microsoft) or what they are transmitting; other than searc…

being honest - I don't care that much. Really interesting (and somehow funny) are all those Apple apologists trying to rationalize/justify everything Apple does.

There you go again! "Apple apologists". Apologising for what?

Re: Corpus of network communications automatically sent to Apple by Yosemite

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

being honest - I don't care that much. Really interesting (and somehow funny) are all those Apple apologists trying to rationalize/justify everything Apple does.

There you go again! "Apple apologists". Apologising for what?

apologists - a person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial.

Defending Apple eg. very first comment below my comment claims Apple is not showing adds whereas someone showed this: http://i.imgur.com/1hdtCjB.png?1

Re: Corpus of network communications automatically sent to Apple by Yosemite

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The text when you open spotlight explains that it's looking on the internet. The first icon is safari. Every search you do, including siri, kortana, and ok google sends information to the respective company. Apparently bendgate didn't satisfy the fans, so they had to come up with a tortured reason to be all upset. I really tire of this horse shit, and would expect better.

I disabled spotlight suggestions in the preferences but didn't in Safari (since it never came into my mind that I'd need to disable it there too). When I searched on safari, I didn't see spotlight suggestions but I can confirm that it phoned home. I don't get why people get so defensive when it's just a simple fact. Even someone technically minded like me who actually disabled Spotlight suggestions in Preferences bec…

Why would you expect Safari to not communicate with the web? I'm mystified by this attitude.
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