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Re: Your language sucks

#11
The worst part is that he's just talking about things like collation, that are relevant to the libc API. Add displaying that text to the equation and the list explodes.

Re: Your language sucks

#12

The points made may be salient, but the tone is so condescending as to be nearly unreadable without getting angry. A large number of his points around languages that are radically different from English could be summed up as: "Your language sucks to deal with in computing because your native country didn't develop computing machinery first." This fairly reeks of tone-deafness.

How would those issues with the languages be dealt with if, say, one of the worst offending Asian languages(according to the author) had developed computing machinery first?

English+ASCII is simple because the rules are simple, not because the US invented the standard first.

Re: Your language sucks

#13
These are human languages created and used by humans, they weren't planned, they just happened. They get used independently with loosely applied rules. I'm not really sure what the point of this article was. Was it to state that human language != programming language? Thanks for the revelation. I will surely stay posted to receive further brain-burstingly deep insights.

Re: Your language sucks

#15
Clearly tongue-in-cheek, and informative. So nice somehow.

But still: the fact that English phonology and orthography are only lightly related, and hardly anyone is willing to do the effort to fix this, should give the author second thoughts on complaining about others' artifacts and not complaining about the ones in English.

Many languages have pure or nearly-pure phonetic orthographies, which are a pleasure to use. English could have one. And as the de-facto international language, it would help make everyone's life better.

And it just won't happen.

Re: Your language sucks

#16
post #7

Funny, but ss and ß are not equivalent, e.g., "Busse" != "Buße".

Depends, actually. In Switzerland, you do write "Buße" as "Busse", despite the different pronounciation indicated with ß. The German written in Switzerland just doesn't know the ß character and uses "ss".

Nonetheless, you're right if you're just looking at German as written and used in Germany (And maybe Austria? Not sure how they handle ß there).

Re: Your language sucks

#18

These are human languages created and used by humans, they weren't planned, they just happened. They get used independently with loosely applied rules. I'm not really sure what the point of this article was. Was it to state that human language != programming language? Thanks for the revelation. I will surely stay posted to receive further brain-burstingly deep insights.

I think the point was just to show all the complications that can appear representing human language for a computer to understand.

I don't think the author actually thinks that language suck, though I can't speak for him, he seems to be too knowledgeable on languages for not actually appreciating them.

Re: Your language sucks

#19
post #8

The points made may be salient, but the tone is so condescending as to be nearly unreadable without getting angry. A large number of his points around languages that are radically different from English could be summed up as: "Your language sucks to deal with in computing because your native country didn't develop computing machinery first." This fairly reeks of tone-deafness.

On one hand, I realize it's totally meant tongue-in-cheek. So I don't want to pick on the article, because it's useful and funny. On the other hand, I've been seeing this attitude in regards to other topics lately. "Why can't humans be perfect... like this machine?" Well, guess what, bub. We came first, and this stupid computer had better get used to it. Me, I like my clumsy, imperfect analog world.

"That's nice. I'll deal with it when you make it economically worthwhile for me to deal with it. Until then, enjoy your fixed-format fields that truncate your name."

Sincerely, Christophe

Re: Your language sucks

#20
And you are a retarded narrow-minded programmer. Go speak json in your own fictive country. Or, just shut up and take these issues as challenges.
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