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Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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I attended Startup School 2011; I regret wasting the day there.

I thought that "Startup School" would be more like the "How to Start a Startup" lecture series that YC is running at Stanford.

Instead, it was just a bunch of celebrities talking about their startup experiences; a concentrated shot of survival bias. There's nothing practical to learn from the Startup School talks.

As for inspiration, I guess some people might be inspired by celebrity speeches like those, and I don't want to begrudge anyone that if that's what they got out of it, but I'm much more inspired by new products. (Especially imperfect products that make it seem easy to improve them.)

The Office Hours are the best part. Throw away the talks, let PG give a keynote, and turn the whole thing into Office Hours.

Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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a dismissive, elitist engineer Guilty as charged. "We launched with one server in a colo facility. Oops!” I had forgotten about that, but it was certainly one of the better moments. Perhaps it's just my elitist engineer bias, but I find stories of technical screwups to be far more enlightening (don't do this, kids!) than stories about dealing with investors.

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There was a huge spectrum of people in attendance, from age, business/technical leaning, optimism/ownership of their careers, and immediately perceptible aptitude within their area. The only area I can think of without such a spectrum was gender -- I'd reckon that 95% of attendees were male.

Personally, I don't really care about the business/engineering divide since I straddle both. Many people I met were the same way. Is a guy who does Ember.js and also does door to door sales a business guy or technical guy?

My personal, completely biased checkbox was whether the person had interesting things to say or not, irrespective of business/technical. I found duds and gems all over the spectum (duds for me, but not necessarily for others). Others will have gone in with different filters for meeting. Such is the nature of the beast when you have attendees representing a whole slew of verticals.

Colin and I bumped into each other and talked about world politics and ISIS before going our separate ways. Tarsnap was only brought up when the group got larger and we inevitably entered "so what do you do" mode.

"What you do" is an integral part of who we are, but it doesn't necessarily have to define us -- neither at conferences or in life in general.

Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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I attended Startup School 2011; I regret wasting the day there. I thought that "Startup School" would be more like the "How to Start a Startup" lecture series that YC is running at Stanford. Instead, it was just a bunch of celebrities talking about their startup experiences; a concentrated shot of survival bias. There's nothing practical to learn from the Startup School talks. As for inspiration, I guess some people…

Throw away the talks, let PG give a keynote, and turn the whole thing into Office Hours.

Now that would be an event I could imagine attending.

Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't do this. Daisy chaining power bars is dangerous, especially at high loads such those generated by a pile of laptop power bricks.

A typical power bar can easily handle a 10A load. A typical laptop draws around 1A when charging, or far less if the battery is charged and it's just powering the laptop itself. Obviously you don't want to go crazy, but you can still get a significant socket expansion ratio.

I think he means don't plug a power bar into another power bar.

Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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It is a matter of expectations. I've been the Startup School for three times now. I don't go for the talks - I go for the people. The talks certainly have an inspirational bent to them, and most of the info can be gleaned from HN, PG's essays, and a whole bunch of blog posts.

Every Startup School there are a few good talks (Andrew Mason's and Reid Hoffman's were two I liked), plus office hours, which are engaging - but again, these are all uploaded online. I'm not sure how office hours participants are selected, but doing that would be an obvious reason to attend.

The real reason to attend Startup School is to meet a fairly interesting, relatively accomplished, friendly crowd of folks. There's a business bent to the demographic - everyone is interested in startups, but most people I meet are technical. If you really want to, there's the chance to talk to some of the YC partners. Some of the speakers will stick around to answer questions. Last year one of the Airbnb cofounders stayed to answer questions for a while.

To get the most out of it you definitely need to introduce yourself to random people. You certainly shouldn't pull out a laptop. I never sit down with friends because sitting down next to a stranger is a great opportunity to introduce yourself.

Over the past three events I've met a few people I've kept in touch with; that alone makes it worthwhile. It also makes a lot more sense if you're local to the Bay Area - it's a great excuse to meet up with friends in the area.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A typical power bar can easily handle a 10A load. A typical laptop draws around 1A when charging, or far less if the battery is charged and it's just powering the laptop itself. Obviously you don't want to go crazy, but you can still get a significant socket expansion ratio.

I think he means don't plug a power bar into another power bar.

Yes, that's exactly what he meant. And what I mean is that you can plug a power bar into another power bar, as long as you're reasonable about the total load you put on the circuit.

Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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I always appreciate a good critique, but I think maybe you nailed it when you said: "Perhaps my expectations were misaligned" The comment about the power outlets, leading the piece, seems like the clearest example of misalignment. I'm not able to speak for YC, but I think the point of startup school is to help people (hackers) who might not have read every PG essay but have some interest in startups learn how to star…

Imo the socializing can be demoralizing or exciting, driven by sheer luck since there are so many different people in attendance. As a commenter on the article says, "it's difficult to find like-minded people" there.

I just decided to roll the dice a LOT of times, and came out with a few serendipitous contacts that will probably be sustained for years to come. But I do think that you need to go in with the mindset of having to converse with many people with whom you don't have anything in common with, before bumping into someone who you find interesting.

Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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Startup School was well worth the value of traveling to the Bay Area for myself. I'd read PG's essays and a lot of other startup literature so I didn't learn anything profoundly new, but I was inspired. Interacting with other attendees was also an amazing experience that is not available to me where I live.

While I disagree with you, your post is important, and I'm glad you wrote it. Those who are undecided about attending SuS in the future whose expectations match yours can decide against it if they read your post. Then, one more space will be available for someone who may have gained a lot, but wasn't accepted.

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Startup School was well worth the value of traveling to the Bay Area for myself. I'd read PG's essays and a lot of other startup literature so I didn't learn anything profoundly new, but I was inspired. Interacting with other attendees was also an amazing experience that is not available to me where I live. While I disagree with you, your post is important, and I'm glad you wrote it. Those who are undecided about att…

While I disagree with you, I think your post is important, and I'm glad you wrote it.

Thank you for saying that. I hesitated for a long time before writing this -- hence the posting almost a week after the event -- because it felt like I was being rude to criticize an event which, after all, we were all invited into for free.

Those who are undecided about attending SuS in the future whose expectations match yours can decide against it if they read your post. Then, one more space will be available for someone who may have gained a lot, but wasn't accepted.

That would certainly be one positive outcome. For me, an even better outcome would be to have Startup School cut down to 100 developers and gaining a technical focus... mind you, maybe that just means I want "hacker school" more than "startup school".

Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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Reconnecting is another big benefit (for some attendees).

Over the years there are a lot of cool people with whom we interacted but then have lost the connection. Startup School is a great place to meet them again, and learn all new things they are doing.

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