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Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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Google does this constantly too. I've been to several Google Glass events where the wall outlets were all hidden or taped down. Sometimes there is only one in the entire room an event is going on in like the GDK Sneak Preview and I'll take turns with someone using it to keep Glass alive or just give up and go downstairs and use an outlet in the lobby, giving up on the event.

For that particular event a journalist passed on the way out and we had an amusing conversation making fun of how poor the battery life is and how Google doesn't provide any power to keep them alive at events. Good events for hackers/developers have power wired to every seat. Bad events, well you can see the write up here.

Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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Google does this constantly too. I've been to several Google Glass events where the wall outlets were all hidden or taped down. Sometimes there is only one in the entire room an event is going on in like the GDK Sneak Preview and I'll take turns with someone using it to keep Glass alive or just give up and go downstairs and use an outlet in the lobby, giving up on the event. For that particular event a journalist pas…

Good events for hackers/developers have power wired to every seat.

... and when circumstances are such that it's not possible to find a venue with power wired to each seat (as is the case for many conferences), good organizers bring bins full of power bars. You can get a lot of laptops plugged into daisy-chained power bars connected to a 10A circuit.

Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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I attended two previous Startup Schools and mostly feel the same way as Colin expresses in this post. The incremental value of attending these events is not sufficiently great if you've already read PG's essays and a watched the talks online. However I would say that it can be motivating to attend and meet people with an energy and interest in building the "new new thing" if you live somewhere where that vibe is lacking. It's worth the flight to attend once, as a reminder that there are other people in the world with the same mindset as you, and they are more than just their HN username.

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a dismissive, elitist engineer

Guilty as charged.

"We launched with one server in a colo facility. Oops!”

I had forgotten about that, but it was certainly one of the better moments. Perhaps it's just my elitist engineer bias, but I find stories of technical screwups to be far more enlightening (don't do this, kids!) than stories about dealing with investors.

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Google does this constantly too. I've been to several Google Glass events where the wall outlets were all hidden or taped down. Sometimes there is only one in the entire room an event is going on in like the GDK Sneak Preview and I'll take turns with someone using it to keep Glass alive or just give up and go downstairs and use an outlet in the lobby, giving up on the event. For that particular event a journalist pas…

Good events for hackers/developers have power wired to every seat. ... and when circumstances are such that it's not possible to find a venue with power wired to each seat (as is the case for many conferences), good organizers bring bins full of power bars. You can get a lot of laptops plugged into daisy-chained power bars connected to a 10A circuit.

Please don't do this. Daisy chaining power bars is dangerous, especially at high loads such those generated by a pile of laptop power bricks.

Re: Thoughts on Startup School

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I always appreciate a good critique, but I think maybe you nailed it when you said:

"Perhaps my expectations were misaligned"

The comment about the power outlets, leading the piece, seems like the clearest example of misalignment. I'm not able to speak for YC, but I think the point of startup school is to help people (hackers) who might not have read every PG essay but have some interest in startups learn how to start startups. Power outlets and other stuff you'd find at "cons" aren't really the point.

I didn't attend this year's startup school, but have attended a few prior, and I can say that the talks, while not completely filled with new information, helped me understand what it's like to be a startup founder. Now, as a current startup founder, I feel like as I've watched the videos this year and talked to one of our employees who attended, I feel empathy with the talks. They don't add to a huge trove of new, previously unearthed knowledge for me, but I don't really think that's the point.

To some extent, I'd liken them to the YC dinners themselves. The point of the YC dinners, in my view, is not so much to give the inside baseball of what it's like to be a silicon valley startup founder... instead sometimes you hear anecdotes that so tightly align with what you're currently going through that you think, "Wow, I'm dealing with that exact thing. And these guys are actually successful now!" It's some sort of helpful external validation which is so often lacking in early stage startups. It helps you keep going, for sure. Startup School talks are like the open source / public version of a YC dinner. The office hours are like the open source / public version of YC office hours.

But back to Startup School itself, I don't think you missed out... I don't even think your critique is invalid, I'd just caution the blanket statement at the end:

>> I would hesitate to recommend it to any other startup founder. If you're considering launching a startup and you need some "inspiration" to push you into going ahead, then by all means attend. For that matter, if you're looking for an audience to practice your "elevator pitch" on, you could certainly do worse. But if you're already working on a startup? Your time is probably better spent staying home and writing code.

Sure, I didn't go this year because I had just gotten back from a week in NYC that was particularly unfun for me, not to mention we're in a totally different place than when I've gone in years past (employees and stuff).

However.

If you feel like you're struggling, and you want to do something that actually could result in an impactful company, there's a whole lot of things worse than going to startup school. For me, it was extremely instructional especially before I had launched my startup. After I had launched, it provided some catharsis / empathy that I really appreciated.

It's definitely not a wasted day. That's for sure.

A great example: Jessica's "Startup Monsters" talk is one I go back and re-read at least every 6 months.

http://www.foundersatwork.com/1/post/2012/10/what-goes-wrong...

Hearing talks like that, and, when you live in a place like Utah, being able to socialize with other people who you could work with forever (we hired someone we met at Startup School) is an extremely great reason to attend. Maybe it wasn't for you, Colin, but I think it could help a lot of people... especially anyone considering launching a startup. And for people who've already launched a startup, if you feel like you're having a hard time, it'll help, I think. It compresses a lot of the essay reading / knowledge gathering into an 8 hour block, combined with meeting extremely great people. For already launched startups, it's a refresher course, with a dollop of community building.

And it's on a saturday... so it's not eating away at your precious work week. Maybe you don't need it, but I think a lot of people will benefit.

(BTW Colin, I've always loved your contributions to HN, and I hope you take this as additional perspective from someone it helped.)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good events for hackers/developers have power wired to every seat. ... and when circumstances are such that it's not possible to find a venue with power wired to each seat (as is the case for many conferences), good organizers bring bins full of power bars. You can get a lot of laptops plugged into daisy-chained power bars connected to a 10A circuit.

Please don't do this. Daisy chaining power bars is dangerous, especially at high loads such those generated by a pile of laptop power bricks.

A typical power bar can easily handle a 10A load. A typical laptop draws around 1A when charging, or far less if the battery is charged and it's just powering the laptop itself.

Obviously you don't want to go crazy, but you can still get a significant socket expansion ratio.

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