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Bilingual brains: Variety makes you mentally fit

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Re: Bilingual brains: Variety makes you mentally fit

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I wonder to what extent using several programming languages has the same effect. If the hypothesis about language switching as an inhibitory mental exercise is correct, then polyglot programming should have some of the same benefits.

Probably not, most programming languages boil down to the same thing with different syntax.

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post #5

I wonder to what extent using several programming languages has the same effect. If the hypothesis about language switching as an inhibitory mental exercise is correct, then polyglot programming should have some of the same benefits.

I think it'll exercise your brain when learning new programming languages that solve problems in different ways, building up your logical and critical thinking skills. But I think learning a new spoken language will exercise the brain more broadly since it's more complex.

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I wonder if knowing (and using) a third language or even a fourth will reduce the dementia/ increase the positive effects even further.

also makes me kind of wonder if there is any benefit of only knowing one language

I dimly recall reading an article on a study that tried to compare the performance of monolingual and bilingual people. From what I remember the bilingual individuals tended to have an edge in the more complex tasks, but monolinguals were significantly faster at some basic operations like sorting lists of words or finding a word in an unsorted list.

Re: Bilingual brains: Variety makes you mentally fit

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post #5

I wonder to what extent using several programming languages has the same effect. If the hypothesis about language switching as an inhibitory mental exercise is correct, then polyglot programming should have some of the same benefits.

This is more of an anecdotal bent, but I've long felt that knowing multiple programming languages makes me more productive and confident when using any one of them, because I have a better understanding of where their respective strength and weaknesses reside in a broader spectrum. Now, this year I took to learning Korean as a hobby, which is markedly different from my native German (and English) - and I think I'm starting to see this pattern replicated in that realm to some degree. Particularly because the vocab has completely separate etymology. It's giving me some new general insights into how humans approach certain topics, which factors transfer and hold true across the different language spheres and which don't, that sort of thing. It's incredibly satisfying even in the little time I get to spend on it.

So at least in that sense, I think you can get something similar out of the two.

Re: Bilingual brains: Variety makes you mentally fit

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post #5

I wonder to what extent using several programming languages has the same effect. If the hypothesis about language switching as an inhibitory mental exercise is correct, then polyglot programming should have some of the same benefits.

Probably not, most programming languages boil down to the same thing with different syntax.

The same could be said of natural languages. People spend a lot of time talking about similar things in every language.

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I wonder to what extent using several programming languages has the same effect. If the hypothesis about language switching as an inhibitory mental exercise is correct, then polyglot programming should have some of the same benefits.

I don't think it applies. Being bilingual means thinking in two different languages. I'm talking about your inner voice.

As far as I know, people don't think in Python or C. I would say that a programming language is like math. You can use it as a plugin in your language, but you still need the main program which is your language.

Re: Bilingual brains: Variety makes you mentally fit

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I've been around a lot of people who were raised bilingual in English and an oriental language and most of them complained that it was too hard. They felt that at the high school and college level it's not possible to fully develop advanced vocabulary and usage in both languages. You can risk coming across as non-native or stupid in both languages. I think a lot of this stuff about bilingualism is biased toward people learning two related indo-european languages, which isn't that hard.

Re: Bilingual brains: Variety makes you mentally fit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

also makes me kind of wonder if there is any benefit of only knowing one language

I dimly recall reading an article on a study that tried to compare the performance of monolingual and bilingual people. From what I remember the bilingual individuals tended to have an edge in the more complex tasks, but monolinguals were significantly faster at some basic operations like sorting lists of words or finding a word in an unsorted list.

The last part makes sense, it's similar to a game where they introduce more and more unfamiliar symbols to you as you progress to higher levels, the more unknowns you have to deal with the more you slow down. Eventually, if/when you learn them well you get most of the speed back. I guess most people learning 2nd languages don't learn them well enough to know the 2nd language really well; technically, if you know both languages equally well, the speed penalty/overhead will be minimal, similar to expanding one's vocabulary in the same language (as long as you don't exceed some threshold of mental capacity).

Re: Bilingual brains: Variety makes you mentally fit

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post #16
post #5

I wonder to what extent using several programming languages has the same effect. If the hypothesis about language switching as an inhibitory mental exercise is correct, then polyglot programming should have some of the same benefits.

I don't think it applies. Being bilingual means thinking in two different languages. I'm talking about your inner voice. As far as I know, people don't think in Python or C. I would say that a programming language is like math. You can use it as a plugin in your language, but you still need the main program which is your language.

It might be difficult comparing even python and c but what about lisp and c or prolog?

Re: Bilingual brains: Variety makes you mentally fit

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dimly recall reading an article on a study that tried to compare the performance of monolingual and bilingual people. From what I remember the bilingual individuals tended to have an edge in the more complex tasks, but monolinguals were significantly faster at some basic operations like sorting lists of words or finding a word in an unsorted list.

The last part makes sense, it's similar to a game where they introduce more and more unfamiliar symbols to you as you progress to higher levels, the more unknowns you have to deal with the more you slow down. Eventually, if/when you learn them well you get most of the speed back. I guess most people learning 2nd languages don't learn them well enough to know the 2nd language really well; technically, if you know both…

I'm not sure that's it. I need to preface this by saying that I'm working from really dim memories here, but from what I recall they were using a definition of 'bilingual' that people who learn a second language after a certain age don't fit, and the tested bilinguals should feel at home in both languages.

Rather, it seems that having more than one language active in the brain concurrently (which requires them to be similarly well developed and in regular use) requires the brain to do more active selection work. I'm not sure this actually makes sense or is just my reading of it, but basically it can't jump to one thing immediately, but has to eliminate the alternatives first. This gives the bilingual brain an edge in tasks that benefit from being well-trained to do that step (and seems to help stave off dementia, where inhibitory control goes out the window, which is a necessity for this selection process to happen), but slows it down in other tasks that would benefit from not having to do the extra work.

In other words, if you're asked to sort or bin a list of English words, it seems to help if your brain doesn't have to wade through a soup made of multiple languages. But if you're asked to do something that exercises similar muscles as wading through this kind of soup (maybe "process strained analogies"? - I kid), it gives you a different sort of edge.

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