Earlier quoted context omitted.
The experiment's already been done. No-one descended from the heavens and imposed our current governmental system; what we have now is what people did. If you remove the government, people band together into organizations that behave the same way: first you get something like a union where people pay dues and get certain benefits, their decision making structure evolves, and eventually the organization decides to cov…
>The experiment's already been done. I'd love to hear about it. >No-one descended from the heavens and imposed our current governmental system; what we have now is what people did. "What people did", isn't what you or I did, necessarily. Are you making the classic HN error of assuming that every reader lives in your country (usually the US)? Or do you think that every government is legitimate, no matter what, so long…
There are levels between "do nothing" and "overthrow". I don't think legitimacy is a binary thing.
> I don't think there's any doubt that if a government suddenly didn't exist, or could no longer pay its bills that we'd see alternative institutions take up the slack in certain areas. But it isn't necessarily a state entity that would do so, and this is clearly a main point of disagreement here.
I think (in this arbitrary and unrealistic scenario) those "alternative institutions" would be or rapidly become very governmentlike; whether they would be institutions with a flag and a seat the united nations is not terribly important. Honestly I don't see much difference even today between governments, large NGOs, and large corporations; all have similar decisionmaking processes and act in similar ways (though as I said, I think accountability is better for governments - and probably even worse for large NGOs). Some people consider a "monopoly on violence" to be a qualitative difference between government and non-government large organizations, but these "alternative institutions" in your scenario would definitely have to be willing to back up their policies with force, so they'd be governmentlike in that respect too.