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OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by acdha »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #4
richbradshaw wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mavericks added performance and battery life, but as far as I'm aware there isn't a focus for that on Yosemite - the work having been done in Mavericks.

Apple has a pretty poor track record in recent years on perf. Especially with iOS updates. If Yosemite didn't focus on perf then it seems likely to have gone down and older machines will suffer. Thats not necessarily wrong but it is important to understand before you dive in.

> Apple has a pretty poor track record in recent years on perf

Apple has a bigger problem where they're popular enough that every release has a ton of people who post subjective problem reports but rarely provide repeatable benchmarks or failures. They're definitely not perfect but if you see a report which doesn't have a specific test with the exact steps needed to duplicate it, it's wise to assume it's an urban legend.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by radicalbyte »

scj wrote: post #8
smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

How often does your MBP crash?

I'm not the OP, but my (new) MBP crashes twice a month when surfing or coding (Sublime, Typescript, Node).

It crashes daily if I use Parallels and regularly when using Spotify.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by toggle »

cdbattags wrote: post #7

I actually read this all the way through... Quality writing.

I'll check it out, but in his past reviews, I've had the impression that the author really likes showing off his background knowledge of all things Apple. A lot of the text is irrelevant to the review, and therefore shouldn't be there. Also, the endless, endless links. He really needs to learn when something should be linked and when it shouldn't -- it really affects the reading experience on the web. You're constantly alternating between black and orange text, and being tempted to hover over them to see "what does this one go to?"

His attention to detail is great, though, no doubt about that.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by zomgbbq »

smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

I was experiencing the GPU panics as well and it turned out to be a hardware issue. Did it only happen when you were using the NVidia GPU and not when using the on-board?

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by WoodenChair »

radicalbyte wrote: post #12
scj wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How often does your MBP crash?

I'm not the OP, but my (new) MBP crashes twice a month when surfing or coding (Sublime, Typescript, Node). It crashes daily if I use Parallels and regularly when using Spotify.

That's highly unusual. You should ask yourself what peripherals/kernel extensions/weird software you have installed that maybe contributing to this. And I would definitely bring it in to Apple for service if the answer is "none."

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by Watabou »

radicalbyte wrote: post #12
scj wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How often does your MBP crash?

I'm not the OP, but my (new) MBP crashes twice a month when surfing or coding (Sublime, Typescript, Node). It crashes daily if I use Parallels and regularly when using Spotify.

That's not normal at all. Try and run a hardware diagnostic test, or try and see if you can find the logs in Console.app

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by kissickas »

zomgbbq wrote: post #14
smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

I was experiencing the GPU panics as well and it turned out to be a hardware issue. Did it only happen when you were using the NVidia GPU and not when using the on-board?

I have this issue (MBP early 2011).

Is it risky to upgrade to Yosemite? When starting up cold, I sometimes have to force-shutdown the computer 30+ times before it will get past the Apple logo screen without going grey or black. I'm not sure if such a major software update is a good idea given the circumstances.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by idlewords »

toggle wrote: post #13
cdbattags wrote: post #7

I actually read this all the way through... Quality writing.

I'll check it out, but in his past reviews, I've had the impression that the author really likes showing off his background knowledge of all things Apple. A lot of the text is irrelevant to the review, and therefore shouldn't be there. Also, the endless, endless links. He really needs to learn when something should be linked and when it shouldn't -- it really affects the reading experience on the web. You're constant…

The background knowledge of things Apple is one of the selling points of these reviews. Siracusa writes for people who really want to nerd out on arcana. My impression is that he sees these reviews as documenting Apple design history, and not just "should I upgrade" guides. It's fine not to like it, but it's a weird thing to criticize him for doing.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by x0x0 »

radicalbyte wrote: post #12
scj wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How often does your MBP crash?

I'm not the OP, but my (new) MBP crashes twice a month when surfing or coding (Sublime, Typescript, Node). It crashes daily if I use Parallels and regularly when using Spotify.

anything show up in

kextstat | grep -iv apple

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