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Re: Nexus 6

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Post by deciplex »

DCKing wrote: post #303
computerjunkie wrote: post #271

5.96” - A phone just under 6". This is possibly the biggest disappointment about the phone. Its simply too large for the average user. The nexus 5 was already quite difficult to reach the top corners with one hand in my opinion with its 4.95”. you get over 24 hours of use from a full charge. - too many times I have heard this phrase from other smartphone manufacturers and its never true. Since this phone is made by M…

> Its simply too large for the average user. > Why can't smartphone manufacturers understand that a longer battery life is whats lacking in mobile devices? I think it's quite bold to speak in such factual terms when talking about the "average" consumer or the market. Your opinion does not necessarily apply to everyone, or even the majority of the users. Not that I disagree with you, mind. It seems to me that these ma…

>That might seem mystifying to you and me, but that really seems to be the case.

It's not mystifying. A larger screen looks cooler in the store, and most people won't realize what a pain in the ass it is until they've already bought it and been using it for a few days. And, few people will ever make the connection that that enormous screen is why their phone is dead before they leave work to go home in the evening.

It just means that increasing sales does not necessarily correlate with increased user satisfaction. Too much of a disparity there, for too long, and the market will eventually just collapse - no one will want to buy new phones anymore.

(FWIW, I might be already there - I love my Nexus 4, was waiting for the Nexus 6, but now it looks like I won't be getting it after all.)

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by gesman »

"Available for pre-order starting late october ..."

Sort of like "you can watch this movie as soon as you'll grow up ..."

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by vijayboyapati »

I've owned an EVO, a Note 2 and a Nexus 5. The form factors being small, large and medium-to-large, respectively. I went from small to large, and while I thought the Note 2 had fantastic specs, it was too unwieldy for me and I decided to downsize to the Nexus 5. I still find the Nexus 5 a bit unwieldy with one handed use, but it's at least possible. Which brings me to my current conclusion: I want a smaller phone which doesn't give up too much in the screen resolution. Which brings me to my question: What makes ideal specs for you? Here's what I want, but cannot seem to find (something is always missing):

* Size: 4.9" screen

* Resolution: 1080p (it's really hard to find any phones this size with this resolution, which is disappointing because the PPI is possible, especially given the quad HD resolutions being slapped on phones now).

* SD expansion slot: One thing I really liked about the Note 2 that the Nexus phones don't have. I could upgrade with a 64G SD card which didn't cost much. 32G can fill up pretty quickly with videos and photos and it's annoying Google has a philosophy which shuns SD cards.

* Battery: At least 2600mAmp (should last at least one day).

* Stock android: No bloatware and no touch-wiz. This isn't as important as the other considerations though.

* CPU: This doesn't matter too much to me. 99% of what I do doesn't need a latest generation processor

* Memory: 2G is fine. Memory again isn't the main thing that's bothering me about the current android offerings.

What really bothers me is no-one is catering to this market segment and the trend is increasingly into the phablet market.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by FlyingLawnmower »

vijayboyapati wrote: post #573

I've owned an EVO, a Note 2 and a Nexus 5. The form factors being small, large and medium-to-large, respectively. I went from small to large, and while I thought the Note 2 had fantastic specs, it was too unwieldy for me and I decided to downsize to the Nexus 5. I still find the Nexus 5 a bit unwieldy with one handed use, but it's at least possible. Which brings me to my current conclusion: I want a smaller phone whi…

it's not perfect, but something in between the Sony Xperia Z3 and Z3 compact sounds like what you're looking for.

Xperia Z3 has 1080P screen, 3Gb ram, 5.2" screen.

Xperia Z3 Compact has 720P screen, 2GB ram, 4.6" screen.

Both have microSD expansion, both have very solid processors and battery life, and sony's android is a very lightweight add-on to stock android.

Maybe a slight compromise in either direction will get you close to what you need?

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by lstamour »

computerjunkie wrote: post #271

5.96” - A phone just under 6". This is possibly the biggest disappointment about the phone. Its simply too large for the average user. The nexus 5 was already quite difficult to reach the top corners with one hand in my opinion with its 4.95”. you get over 24 hours of use from a full charge. - too many times I have heard this phrase from other smartphone manufacturers and its never true. Since this phone is made by M…

> Why can't smartphone manufacturers understand that a longer battery life is whats lacking in mobile devices?

I can tell you haven't been using the Android L Preview. I have, and the battery life extension is fantastic. Easily the equal to Nokia's. Basically, when it gets down to low power, it can shift into a mode where only foreground apps and activities are in use, and the battery can last all day easily. iOS, of course, prevents background activities overall and so uses less power continuously to achieve a similar battery life on newer phones. That said, the best way to get all-day battery life continues to be "don't use the phone so much" or the no-compromises "plug it in when you can" which I'm sure we're all familiar with. Phones recharge faster these days too...

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by lstamour »

monstermonster wrote: post #462
computerjunkie wrote: post #271

5.96” - A phone just under 6". This is possibly the biggest disappointment about the phone. Its simply too large for the average user. The nexus 5 was already quite difficult to reach the top corners with one hand in my opinion with its 4.95”. you get over 24 hours of use from a full charge. - too many times I have heard this phrase from other smartphone manufacturers and its never true. Since this phone is made by M…

This will probably sound like a troll as I understand windows phone isn't popular here but my Nokia 630 lasts over 48 hours of medium usage EASILY on a tiny 1830mAh battery, has a perfectly sized 4.5" screen, has navigation that doesn't shit itself in the countryside and costs £99 SIM free off Amazon. The camera is shit but I tend to lug around a DSLR anyway if there's anything worth taking a photo of, so the phone i…

If people knew that Google finally works under IE mobile in version 8.1, I think they'd re-consider Windows Phone. But that's not necessarily the HN crowd pleaser here ;-)

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by cenhyperion »

bane wrote: post #486
skynetv2 wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I moved from a Galaxy Nexus to LG G3, which is smaller than the Nexus 6 and I find it incredibly hard to use. Can barely use it with one hand and it doesnt fit in my shirt pocket, sticks out, cant put it in my pant pockets, because it will break. Its very inconvenient size wise. awesome phone though and excellent battery life. Galaxy Nexus was so small I could put it anywhere on me and it would be just fine. Awesome…

> Can barely use it with one hand and it doesnt fit in my shirt pocket, sticks out, cant put it in my pant pockets, because it will break. Its very inconvenient size wise. awesome phone though and excellent battery life. I mean this in all seriousness, how small are your pants? When I got my Note, the first thing I checked was to see if it would fit in my pants pockets. No problem with a single pair. I keep seeing th…

Most of my jeans have pretty small pockets (biggest thing I've noticed with higher end denim is the pockets are much smaller than levis, etc). An iPhone 5 sized device is about the max that will fit in there, a 6 (4.7 inches) borders on too large. But those pockets are plenty large for a phone, keys, wallet in my back pocket, and a few other small items. There's a difference between "useless pockets you can't carry anything around in" and useful pockets you can't carry a tablet-sized device in.

So yeah, it's definitely an issue for both sexes. You may not buy pants that don't have large enough pockets, but I won't base my wardrobe around my phone and won't buy a phone that I can't easily fit in average sized pockets.

I always associated massive phones as being marketed towards women seeing as, at least in western culture, they're generally the demographic that is able to conveniently carry them. Most men don't have the pocket space to carry a 6 inch phone, and I've heard a lot of complaints around the new iPhone screen size (the smaller, not the 6-plus) from both genders as being too large to conveniently carry.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by lstamour »

dnissley wrote: post #523
ZenoArrow wrote: post #408

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Modern consumers seem to be perfectly fine with trading all-day battery life for better display" No, they're not. Plenty of people bitch about how frequently they need to charge their phone, and only tech-savvy people realise how large of a factor screen choice is on this battery drain.

As a tech-savvy person I'm not so certain about that. For example I see processors simultaneously get faster and more efficient year after year. Do we have any hard data on this? What is the power draw of a 720p display vs a 1080p or 1440p display? A cursory google search doesn't bring up much.

As I understand it, the proof is how tightly they pack the pixels. If you need a stronger backlight to illuminate the screen, and more power to push all the pixels, it stands to reason that a more detailed screen e.g. 1080p instead of 720p, in the same form factor, is going to use considerably more battery. It's part of the reason why the iPhone 6 does better in battery life tests without gimmicks to extend the battery life as the phone hits Low Battery warnings, the screen's resolution is just over 720p instead of the Nexus 5's comparable 1080p screen. This difference is highlighted by how the Nexus 5 had a 2300 mAh battery while the iPhone 6 has merely 1810 mAh, 20% smaller. In battery tests for the 1080p Nexus 5, under L, it lasts roughly 8 hours. The iPhone 6 gets about the same playing movies, maybe two hours longer otherwise. I'd argue the screen plays a huge role in this.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by lstamour »

boyaka wrote: post #288
computerjunkie wrote: post #271

5.96” - A phone just under 6". This is possibly the biggest disappointment about the phone. Its simply too large for the average user. The nexus 5 was already quite difficult to reach the top corners with one hand in my opinion with its 4.95”. you get over 24 hours of use from a full charge. - too many times I have heard this phrase from other smartphone manufacturers and its never true. Since this phone is made by M…

Apps that are running have a significant effect on battery life. One of the big problems with Android (vs iPhones) is that manufacturers and ISPs still have some control over messing with stock Apps. Also people might expect to be able to install any App they want and still get the same battery life. Many of these Apps require ridiculous permissions and are obviously collecting information about you and your usage. A…

Have a look at your Battery Usage settings for which apps are prime candidates to remove. But I think you'll also find L does a good enough job at extending battery life for many Android handsets. Don't get me wrong, I still think my iPhone uses less juice, but given the slightly larger battery in the Nexus 5 compared to the iPhone 6, it can hold its own under L.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by lstamour »

vijayboyapati wrote: post #573

I've owned an EVO, a Note 2 and a Nexus 5. The form factors being small, large and medium-to-large, respectively. I went from small to large, and while I thought the Note 2 had fantastic specs, it was too unwieldy for me and I decided to downsize to the Nexus 5. I still find the Nexus 5 a bit unwieldy with one handed use, but it's at least possible. Which brings me to my current conclusion: I want a smaller phone whi…

Upgrade the Nexus 5 to L and all you're missing in this list is the SD Card slot, which, given the 802.11ac support you shouldn't miss. At this point, my wifi speed tests on the Nexus 5 outpace my SD Card slot read tests by 5x or more. ;-)
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