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Re: Nexus 6

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Post by colordrops »

computerjunkie wrote: post #271

5.96” - A phone just under 6". This is possibly the biggest disappointment about the phone. Its simply too large for the average user. The nexus 5 was already quite difficult to reach the top corners with one hand in my opinion with its 4.95”. you get over 24 hours of use from a full charge. - too many times I have heard this phrase from other smartphone manufacturers and its never true. Since this phone is made by M…

> Why can't smartphone manufacturers understand that a longer battery life is whats lacking in mobile devices?

Very true. These companies create some of the most complex products on the planet, and yet can't figure out that it's completely fucking brain-dead dumb that the device can't last through a day of normal usage. These are critical devices in our lives now, and Google et al could probably save millions in health care costs from stress-related problems caused by dead phones.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by scintill76 »

Too wrote: post #327
scintill76 wrote: post #255

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Aren't we getting to the point where you don't have a choice, if you want a new phone? The market wants phones, not necessarily with a strong preference for the sizes being offered. I recently bought a new phone, and found my options getting quite limited if I wanted less than 5" screen size, and SD card. If I compromised on SD card, maybe there's more options, but all the main choices seem bigger in general.

Agree, there's no choice. Everything you find today below 5" is budget phones that are so slow and have such a bad screen that they could almost make you vomit. It can't be impossible to make smaller phones fast and with high dpi, a few years ago all phones were like that, take iphone 4-5s, nexus 4 or htc 1S as example. I've been thinking it's better to buy a high end old phone than a small new one because there simp…

True; wanting a decent-DPI screen and fast CPU, while having a "small" screen, was also restricting my options.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by toomuchtodo »

skynetv2 wrote: post #387
DCKing wrote: post #303

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> Its simply too large for the average user. > Why can't smartphone manufacturers understand that a longer battery life is whats lacking in mobile devices? I think it's quite bold to speak in such factual terms when talking about the "average" consumer or the market. Your opinion does not necessarily apply to everyone, or even the majority of the users. Not that I disagree with you, mind. It seems to me that these ma…

I moved from a Galaxy Nexus to LG G3, which is smaller than the Nexus 6 and I find it incredibly hard to use. Can barely use it with one hand and it doesnt fit in my shirt pocket, sticks out, cant put it in my pant pockets, because it will break. Its very inconvenient size wise. awesome phone though and excellent battery life. Galaxy Nexus was so small I could put it anywhere on me and it would be just fine. Awesome…

I moved from a Galaxy Nexus to an iPhone 5s, and was sorely disappointed with the smaller size. I plan on pre-ordering the Nexus 5 and selling my iPhone as soon as it arrives.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by shirro »

I am incredulous when people say phones are too big for normal users. I once wandered out of an Apple store after laughing at the postage stamp sized displays to see large groups of asian girls with small hands pull massive bejewelled Galaxy Notes out of their bags and comfortably use them.

The people who supposedly can't use small phones due to dainty hands can in fact use them very well and have the ideal fashion accessories to lug them around. Which kind of cast doubts on some of the arguments I hear as do the sales figures.

My only conclusion is that a large number of people owning Apple stock only use one hand to operate their phone while I can only assume they are masturbating with the other.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

sergiosgc wrote: post #465
r00fus wrote: post #449

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Bitterly clung - quite amusing. I have a 4S still around as my "iPod touch" and it does fine compared to my 5 in terms of usability for apps and music. Remembering back, I didn't somehow feel when I got the iPhone5 and later my Nexus5 that my 4S was "inadequate". I did feel that it weighed a lot compared the iPhone5 however, and was very glad for that. When thinking about a smartphone, I care more about it's usabilit…

> Am I out in left field here? A bit, yes. My phone (n5) is used more as a web browsing device and video consuming device than it is as a music player. It is definitely the screen size. My previous phone (HTC Desire, about the same screen size as an iPhone <6) was pretty much a phone plus ipod.

I think the demand for screen size is also due to the fact that we probably have some ways to go before getting good at designing things for small screened devices.

I am still in 2 minds about my iPhone 6. It is much nicer in most ways than the 5. The extra screen real-estate really helps but at the cost of single-handed operation and comfort when bending at the hips.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by illicium »

alex_c wrote: post #52
tanderson92 wrote: post #34

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Can you elaborate on the flashing/calibration? Is that to get better than 30Hz at native 4K resolutions? For coding / web browsing, how good is the screen (i.e. can you notice lag for those use cases). I have heard mixed things about the Seki 39" but it looks like it could be a great development monitor

I use one for development and love it. There is lag and it is noticeable - it's most noticeable for moving the mouse cursor, and it is somewhat annoying because it makes any mouse operation feel slower and less precise. The lag doesn't really affect anything else I do. Still worth it for the price IMO, the screen real estate makes a huge difference in my productivity.

If it only does 1080p, you're not getting any additional screen real estate, just huge pixels.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by harshreality »

radley wrote: post #367
dragonwriter wrote: post #348

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> A phone just under 6". This is possibly the biggest disappointment about the phone. Its simply too large for the average user. Quite a large portion of the people I know with phablets like the Galaxy Note series are petite women -- people with smaller hands than "the average user". While the line you present is the exact line that Apple kept trotting out while they were in denial about the market demand for large p…

I think it has to do with one-handed use with smaller hands. A phone would have to be really small (i.e. iPhone 3 & under)) to be useful, but you lose screen area. In contrast, phablets are a convenient mini-mini tablet that can also do calls and 4G data without additional costs of "tablet LTE".

Isn't it slower to type or navigate apps one-handed, and isn't it more likely to result in dropping the phone (even one as small as an iphone 3)? How many coffee accidents has one handed phone use (while carrying coffee in the other) caused?

It might feel like using a phone one-handed is productive, but I rather doubt it. I also wonder if larger iphones have higher applecare profit margins (given identical hardware costs) because of a reduction in phone-drop accidents.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by shirro »

DCKing wrote: post #303
computerjunkie wrote: post #271

5.96” - A phone just under 6". This is possibly the biggest disappointment about the phone. Its simply too large for the average user. The nexus 5 was already quite difficult to reach the top corners with one hand in my opinion with its 4.95”. you get over 24 hours of use from a full charge. - too many times I have heard this phrase from other smartphone manufacturers and its never true. Since this phone is made by M…

> Its simply too large for the average user. > Why can't smartphone manufacturers understand that a longer battery life is whats lacking in mobile devices? I think it's quite bold to speak in such factual terms when talking about the "average" consumer or the market. Your opinion does not necessarily apply to everyone, or even the majority of the users. Not that I disagree with you, mind. It seems to me that these ma…

I tried to post a point but got deleted by the Apple mafia on HN. The fact is I have seen large number of small handed users (asian females) comfortably carry and use large format phones like Galaxy Notes.

The problem for the male dominated tech media and HN users is that they mostly do not carry a shoulder bag and cannot conceive of a device which does not fit in a pocket being useful.

Add a bejewelled hello kitty pocket book case and carry it in your shoulder bag and a large phone is just fine. It is also great for people who use their phone mainly from their desk and carry a briefcase or backpack. A tradie will not be climbing on roofs with a Nexus 6 in their pocket. But it is a big market and there is room for differentiation.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

bane wrote: post #490
WizzleKake wrote: post #487

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Not everyone wants to use both hands. Some of us would like to be able to respond to a text message while carrying something, for example.

Yeah sure, I understand that use case. I personally wish Apple had kept the 6 at the original form factor and made the larger phone as-is to give real choice. The way they did it was "go bigger" or "go biggerer" and I get that there are people who really do just want the smaller form factor for whatever reason. Okay, so I did have a moment the other day where I wanted to text somebody but one of my hands was full and…

You can't use speech recognition on public transport.

And this line "so I made the extremely difficult decision to wait 5 minutes until I was in a better place to do what I wanted" sounds a lot like "you're holding the phone wrong".

I think there are software improvements that you can make though. Apple's Reachability feature is a step in the right direction. But not enough.

Re: Nexus 6

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Post by dragonwriter »

rifung wrote: post #517
cloakandswagger wrote: post #340

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People use their phones for everything but phoning now. Ballooning screen sizes are just a reaction to this.

Weird, I'd actually be fine with having a big phone if I were making calls. It's really easy to hold a large phone against your head with one hand. What's not so easy is to try to text someone with one hand or browse the web with one hand. I suppose browsing the web isn't actually very difficult but it's just much easier to drop the phone when it's hard to hold.

> What's not so easy is to try to text someone with one hand or browse the web with one hand.

I've used phones of all sizes, and I've never found one where it is easy to browse the web or text with one hand. Sure, on a phablet, its too big to hold comfortably and do that, but on a tiny old iPhone, its too small to type accurately one handed, have enough of a viewport to see enough of a webpage to be worth browsing on, or accurately hit links one handed. So, even with a tiny phone, it ends up only really being convenient to do those tasks two-handed, and then what's the benefit of the miniscule screen?

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