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Skunk Works Reveals Compact Fusion Reactor Details

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Re: Skunk Works Reveals Compact Fusion Reactor Details

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I followed the ecat ( http://ecatnews.com/ ) story for a year or so until my BS alarm started getting really loud - but just the prospect of it was so exhilarating, it was hard to resist the enthusiasm overflow... Now this sounds way more serious than Andrea Rossi's saga. But I did get a lot tougher on my wait and see stand.

I'm still waiting on a Steorn Orbo replication...

Yes!

Re: Skunk Works Reveals Compact Fusion Reactor Details

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How much dangerous are the neutrons from such device? Similar to radiation, worst? Time sell any oil company stocks, mutual fund holding?

> How much dangerous are the neutrons from such device? Similar to radiation, worst? Neutrons are interesting in that they dump all their energy into a very small region. Instead of losing energy continually and gradually, they travel a ways and then dump all their energy into one spot. This makes them potentially very useful for things like cancer treatment (you can select neutrons to ensure they deliver most of the…

Are you sure you're not mixing up neutrons and protons? Here are some typical depth dose curves from google images(http://www.nap.edu/books/11976/xhtml/images/p20014b2bg205001...). Neutrons, being neutral particles, don't exhibit the Bragg Peak (large increase in energy deposition at the end of the particle's track) that you get for heavy charged particles.

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That's an excellent point! Perhaps they intend the truck to be sitting at the bottom of a fast moving river. But what gets me is that they are burying the lead. No fusion reactor of any size has reached sustainability...so why is the story here talking about size at all? Small size would be a very nice added bonus; fusion reactors that don't consume more energy than they produce are earth-changing.

Small size means you can build it easily. It's not a huge undertaking like ITER.

I think it is more a matter of tolerances than of size what makes ITER take so long. Also, it is experimental. That means that it is not just a matter of ordering stuff and putting it together.

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> How much dangerous are the neutrons from such device? Similar to radiation, worst? Neutrons are interesting in that they dump all their energy into a very small region. Instead of losing energy continually and gradually, they travel a ways and then dump all their energy into one spot. This makes them potentially very useful for things like cancer treatment (you can select neutrons to ensure they deliver most of the…

> I suspect this effect means that, for reactors, the wear and tear is more localized, but of a larger amplitude. Not exactly. The initial collisions do indeed cause localised damage cascades, but the overall effect of a large neutron flux is embrittlement of the material. This is a problem already in fission reactor vessels, but the neutron fluxes are a whole order of magnitude larger in fusion reactors, and it's a…

http://www.thomasnet.com/products/neutron-shielding-74851395...

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No, the standard joke is "thirty years away." Or at least it was. Strangely enough the number keeps decreasing with the passage of time.

Plotting a "Year vs Years away" graph would then give us a good estimation on when we can expect to meet that expectation.

Although this is related to artificial intelligence, http://intelligence.org/files/PredictingAI.pdf is an interesting study on expert predictions of future technology.

Re: Skunk Works Reveals Compact Fusion Reactor Details

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I'm not seeing any top physicists working in this program (McGuire is not one). I would be willing to bet 1000 EUR that their math and modeling does not add up, or they have skipped some details. Problem with fusion research like this is that the closer you get self sustainment or energy generation, the harder it gets and problems pile up. This project looks like many other similar projects that have gone bust. They…

It's always a safe bet that the top Hacker News comment will always be "won't work, it's too hard." It's like sitting around for a year trying to sell a project at my current employer, with everybody and their lead telling you "that'll never work," then you implement in a weekend and those same people start nitpicking what you've come up with. (What happened to it'll never work? "Well, your CSS isn't great.") Honestl…

And it's always a safe bet the top response to that comment will be somebody criticizing it without any solid facts or reason but with fuzzy "you just need to believe harder!" kind of nonsense.

Re: Skunk Works Reveals Compact Fusion Reactor Details

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Interesting when you compare to the recent dynomak paper announcement[1]. The pointer to 'superconducting magnets' doesn't get a lot of ink though. I went by Fry's the other day and they were out of them :-) I wondered about them because to date such things usually are sitting in a cryogenic bath (think MRI machine) and not next to a million degree hot plasma. Even in the LHC there is a lot of space between the beam and the ring magnets. Dr McGuire in the article suggests -- “We should be able to go to 100% or beyond,” which is quite the challenge from the thermal management perspective.

It is however another great example that there is money going into lots of different fusion ideas. And that can only be a good thing as far as I am concerned.

[1] http://www.washington.edu/news/2014/10/08/uw-fusion-reactor-...

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The Bugatti Veyron 16.4 has 1200 hp and therefore probably produces around 2.5 MW waste heat at full power. A factor of 40 is still quite a difference but it does not sound like an unsolvable problem.

That's peak power, though. Basically no street car is designed to be able to produce peak power for more than a minute or two at a time, and probably very few can do it for more than a few seconds. I'm pretty sure that car doesn't have the cooling capacity to cool itself at full power like this plant would have to.

piston powered airplanes run at full or nearly full power for extended periods.

Re: Skunk Works Reveals Compact Fusion Reactor Details

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I'm not seeing any top physicists working in this program (McGuire is not one). I would be willing to bet 1000 EUR that their math and modeling does not add up, or they have skipped some details. Problem with fusion research like this is that the closer you get self sustainment or energy generation, the harder it gets and problems pile up. This project looks like many other similar projects that have gone bust. They…

If you have to periodically throw away your reactor and buy a new one because of neutron damage that would be a positive thing for a company like Lockheed.
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