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HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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So all that stuff they were saying about how it was financially impossible to do this was just PR fabrication? I never would have suspected.

I think the financials depend on the ratio of cable subscribers to cord cutters, and that ratio has been changing over time.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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The aggregate of all these fees (plus Netflix, Amazon, etc) will likely approach or exceed the cost of a typical cable subscription.

And I'm okay with that. Having transparent pricing means that I am voting with my dollars for the content I care about. With a cable subscription, most of your dollars just go to Disney and not the content producers whose content you are personally consuming.

How are Netflix, Prime, and even HBO different? You pay them for access to all of the content they decide to carry. I don't see how Netflix is "a la carte."

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

#53

Now this just needs to happen with other TV networks. For example, I'd love to pay AMC Networks[0], A&E Networks[1], or NBC Universal[2] a nominal monthly fee to access their catalogs on-demand. While it's true that these networks stream some of their current shows online, the players and streaming experience is usually very terrible. That's how I want to the future to be: everything is like Netflix or HBO-sans-cable…

The aggregate of all these fees (plus Netflix, Amazon, etc) will likely approach or exceed the cost of a typical cable subscription.

It's not even the money for me. I just don't like having a cable company. They're just awful.

Also, having all the video in a choose-it-myself format avoids droning out in front of the TV for hours just watching commercials and reruns. And getting it over an IP network means a lot. Hello logging! Hello filtering per MAC around homework time!

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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Glad to hear it. For the time being, for anyone with Amazon Prime, the HBO collection isn't bad: http://www.amazon.com/b?node=9097393011 It's not nearly as complete or up-to-date as HBO go of course, but it has lot of the most popular shows. We have HBO go and actually use Amazon prime to watch HBO shows since Comcast has yet to support logging into HBO go on PS3.

I didn't realize Prime had HBO shows, I guess I'll finally make some use of it.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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Seems like they're finally embracing the philosophy to fighting piracy from Kim Dotcom: How to stop piracy: 1. Create great content 2. Make it easy to buy 3. Same day global release 4. Works on any device 5. Fair price

Did you see something asserting point 4?

I canceled my Hulu+ subscription once they started telling me I wasn't allowed to watch shows on my iPad... The ENTIRE reason I signed up for it in the first place. I even put up with them still showing me ads, but "web only" shows were the last straw.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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What about Canada? I'd subscribe in a second as we too, are cord cutters up here.

Wouldn't it be nice. As a Canadian who hasn't had cable for a decade, every six months or so I check on options. I subscribed to Netflix when we got it here, and it's cheap and good, but I'd love to be able to access HBO and other movie content.

I tried to find a legal download of Bladerunner the other day, and got the following:

1) Amazon.com geofenced it

2) Google Play won't let me download it (I have "bought" movies on Google Play before, but like any digital play-for-now service they will eventually become unavailable to me: I will no longer buy digital content I can't rip to an open format, because temporary proprietary access is not what I'm looking for.)

3) iTunes doesn't have it

4) Amazon.ca doesn't do digital downloads of films, near as I can tell. They certainly didn't have the one I was looking for.

All I want to be able to do is pay for a legal digital copy of a film, and I can't. I can buy a piece of plastic with the bits burned into it that I have no device to play, but that's a ridiculous waste.

I didn't torrent the film... I just ended up saying, "Screw it. No sale for me."

Business 101: make it easy for customers to give you money.

This is something that digital streaming companies (other than Netflix) have not mastered.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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I wonder how much money they are making selling their content to foreign networks vs. the amount they could make opening their online service up globally. I am assuming that if they did open it up globally, they would not be able to sell the shows for as much money to other networks.

I understand your comment, and you are probably right. I like to watch movies/tv shows in their original language, so not many would be open to pay to watch english only shows... I don't know.

Here in Portugal, I'd say subtitles are still a must if you want to reach most of the market. The average HBO show viewer has certainly a better grasp of English than the average citizen, but probably not good enough to understand complex dialog.

That said, subtitling from English is fairly cheap, especially at the current level of quality, so there's no reason to avoid it.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I'm okay with that. Having transparent pricing means that I am voting with my dollars for the content I care about. With a cable subscription, most of your dollars just go to Disney and not the content producers whose content you are personally consuming.

How are Netflix, Prime, and even HBO different? You pay them for access to all of the content they decide to carry. I don't see how Netflix is "a la carte."

You pay them for access to everything, but they know what you are watching -- this is quite unlike typical broadcast/cable where only some very small subset (historically "Nielsen Families") are tracked.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

#59

Now this just needs to happen with other TV networks. For example, I'd love to pay AMC Networks[0], A&E Networks[1], or NBC Universal[2] a nominal monthly fee to access their catalogs on-demand. While it's true that these networks stream some of their current shows online, the players and streaming experience is usually very terrible. That's how I want to the future to be: everything is like Netflix or HBO-sans-cable…

You can buy episodes for AMC's shows on amazon and iTunes the day after they air?

http://www.amazon.com/Greetings-Set-Season-5/dp/B00NI1VFYI/r...

Good way to watch the one or two shows you want from some of these networks. Although its not an all access plan to every show you can atleast watch the latest.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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Maybe it won't work on your Android-powered toaster, but the devices they currently support are fairly comprehensive: http://www.hbogo.com/#devices/

What is missing for me is Apple TV, but I suppose that cuts too deep into HBO's income.

It's not about just the device, it's about the device + provider; see PS3 and Comcast.
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