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Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

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"Android 5.0 Lollipop, which comes on Nexus 6, Nexus 9 and Nexus Player, will also be available on Nexus 4, 5, 7, 10 and Google Play edition devices in the coming weeks."

I don't understand why people keep saying that it won't come on Nexus 4.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

#23

So the Nexus 4, which is just under 2 years old, won't support Lollipop? Considering the device is from Google and not through a carrier I would expect better. No pricing on the Nexus 6 but I would expect it will cost a lot more than Nexus devices have in the past. And at only 1 inch less than their Nexus 7 tablet it seems ridiculously large. At what point is it a tablet that makes calls and not a phone? Nexus Player…

They might have changed the page since your comment but this is on the page : "Android 5.0 Lollipop, which comes on Nexus 6, Nexus 9 and Nexus Player, will also be available on Nexus 4, 5, 7, 10 and Google Play edition devices in the coming weeks."

They did. Well good then.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

#24
post #16

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It's all kind of absurd. I skipped the Nexus 5, but was surprised when they didn't release L Preview for the Nexus 4. If that trend holds, then whatever OS update they pre-release at Google I/O 2015 will only be available on the Nexus 6. Does that mean I have to buy a Nexus 6 as an Android developer even though I don't like the size?

Hmm, as an Android developer you pretty much HAVE to buy a few Samsungs, not Nexuses. That is - Nexuses actually work and run new OS, while people out there you're developing for are using Samsungs with their buggy and broken firmware.

That's the thing - we buy our devices in line with what our customers use. So I have about a dozen devices, but I don't think the Nexus 6 will crack into the top 10. Is it worth buying solely for whatever new developer release comes out next Google I/O?

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

#25

6 hours of battery life for 15 minutes of charging? Wow.

This seems like a misleading claim, based on their "24-hour battery life" claim, which is in fact 24 hours of cellular talk time, with Wi-Fi off.

From http://www.google.com/nexus/6/

Testing was conducted by Google using pre-production Nexus 6 devices and software. Talk time tests used default settings with Wi-Fi off and LTE on. Standby time tests used default settings with LTE on and Wi-Fi on. Wi-Fi internet tests had Airplane Mode on with Wi-Fi connected to a test access point, while loading three popular websites cached on a local server. The Nexus 6 loaded a page, waited 40 seconds, and then loaded a page from the next site. LTE internet tests had Wi-Fi off and LTE on, and used the same testing method as the Wi-Fi internet tests.

Edit: If you're going to downvote, please explain why.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

#26
post #18

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The Nexus 4 has been nerfed since shortly after the Nexus 5 came out - just like the Galaxy Nexus was nerfed just after the Nexus 4 came out. Based on their history, a Nexus device needs to be replaced once its successor comes out, so it's not a big surprise (but still a shame) that the Nexus 4 won't support L.

As an aside, I don't think you are using the word "nerf" correctly here. "nerf" is a gaming term that means turning a powerful weapon into basically a nerf gun. It means to make something cause less damage or make something less dangerous. I'm not sure how the Nexus phones were ever causing damage to anyone. I think the terms you want are "made obsolete" or "planned obsolescence".

It's also come to mean, in general, to make something less useful. You can "nerf" an alchemy or farming skill in an MMO, even if that doesn't have any combat ability.

Still, I don't think it's super appropriate, because there's nothing making the older phones worse, they just aren't getting better in the ways they obviously could.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

#27

So the Nexus 4, which is just under 2 years old, won't support Lollipop? Considering the device is from Google and not through a carrier I would expect better. No pricing on the Nexus 6 but I would expect it will cost a lot more than Nexus devices have in the past. And at only 1 inch less than their Nexus 7 tablet it seems ridiculously large. At what point is it a tablet that makes calls and not a phone? Nexus Player…

Physically, the Nexus 7 is just over 2 inches (51.4mm) larger diagonally then the Nexus 6.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

#28
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Nexus 4 has been nerfed since shortly after the Nexus 5 came out - just like the Galaxy Nexus was nerfed just after the Nexus 4 came out. Based on their history, a Nexus device needs to be replaced once its successor comes out, so it's not a big surprise (but still a shame) that the Nexus 4 won't support L.

As an aside, I don't think you are using the word "nerf" correctly here. "nerf" is a gaming term that means turning a powerful weapon into basically a nerf gun. It means to make something cause less damage or make something less dangerous. I'm not sure how the Nexus phones were ever causing damage to anyone. I think the terms you want are "made obsolete" or "planned obsolescence".

If something's effectiveness is destroyed, it has been nerfed. I think being made obsolete is an appropriate time to use the word nerf, though I don't think the phones were in fact made particularly obsolete.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

#29

So the Nexus 4, which is just under 2 years old, won't support Lollipop? Considering the device is from Google and not through a carrier I would expect better. No pricing on the Nexus 6 but I would expect it will cost a lot more than Nexus devices have in the past. And at only 1 inch less than their Nexus 7 tablet it seems ridiculously large. At what point is it a tablet that makes calls and not a phone? Nexus Player…

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Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

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post #25

6 hours of battery life for 15 minutes of charging? Wow.

This seems like a misleading claim, based on their "24-hour battery life" claim, which is in fact 24 hours of cellular talk time, with Wi-Fi off . From http://www.google.com/nexus/6/ Testing was conducted by Google using pre-production Nexus 6 devices and software. Talk time tests used default settings with Wi-Fi off and LTE on. Standby time tests used default settings with LTE on and Wi-Fi on. Wi-Fi internet tests h…

Charging is always fastest with airplane mode on, perhaps that's how they reached these numbers.
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