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Funny how the default male response to a women's problem is almost always, "I will tell you a better way to handle this." Almost a cliché at this point.
I don't think that is the default male response at all. I am male and that is not my response.
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#92Boy am I gonna regret this, I know these are polarizing issues, but please take a moment to consider the credibility of the individuals involved and their respective economic incentives. I think that, given objective consideration of the facts, it's clear that Anita Sarkeesian is intentionally fueling controversy for financial gain. Her claims of life-threatening danger have been repeatedly refuted by law enforcement…
There are people that do this - rightwing talk radio and the goldbugs are the usual examples - but whipping up a hate campaign against yourself? That carries a risk of people believing it and murdering you? This is not a plausible thing.
People can spend what they want on kickstarter. Star Citizen has raised $55m and so far not delivered anything.
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Apparently Utah law would make it illegal for them to prevent people from bringing concealed firearms, which is basically a law to maximise casualties from campus shootings.
I legitimately cannot decide what scares me more, the thought of a mass shooting, or the thought of a bunch of "heroes" with a concealed carry cross-firing. Mark my words, one day a mass shooting will occur, someone will pull out their concealed carry, and a second concealed carry person will come around the corner and shoot the first (or the police will). Once there is panic and an unknown threat, adding more guns i…
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#94Boy am I gonna regret this, I know these are polarizing issues, but please take a moment to consider the credibility of the individuals involved and their respective economic incentives. I think that, given objective consideration of the facts, it's clear that Anita Sarkeesian is intentionally fueling controversy for financial gain. Her claims of life-threatening danger have been repeatedly refuted by law enforcement…
That objective consideration you’re talking about? It’s not objective. How could the police have known there was no threat? A threat was issued.
I think threatening someone is vile. Our society is based on free speech, and free speech is most key when it is unpopular speech: popular speech doesn't need defending by its nature. That's why flag burning is legal.
However if the police are really unaware of the threats made, I wonder if this is another "Meg Lanker-Simons" incident[0] (feminist false-flag).
[0]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/03/meg-lanker-simons-h...
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#95There is an inherit sexism even in the response to this. If this was an email threat targeting say, a kindergarden, or a presidential visit, there would be federal law inforcement coming down hard looking for the source of the email. The specter of "terrorism" would be most certainly be invoked.
Instead we have "enhanced security measures." Because apparently it's not terrorism if the target is women.
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She runs a show called 'Feminist Frequency', dedicated to calling out sexist tropes in video games (amongst other things). She appears to have become one of the enemies of the movement known as "#GamerGate". Proponents of the movement will tell you it's about ethics in game journalism, but in reality it seems to have largely become corrupted by misogyny and the like. Several female game developers and journalists hav…
but in reality it seems to have largely become corrupted by misogyny and the like Not any more than you'll find idiots in any movement - I would liken them more to the vandals that presented themselves during Occupy Wall Street. I hang around the organizing points for the GamerGate stuff - people are remarkably level headed and respectful (and absolutely NOT driven by misogyny). There is no organized harassment happe…
In any case that well is poisoned now. You can either continue to argue in favor of misogyny, because that is what is associated with GamerGate and that is what it represents at this point, beyond anything anyone "involved" in the "control poitns" might want; or you can support human rights and women's rights.
It's irrelevant whether the harassment is organized or not. It's supported tacitly by the very existence of GamerGate at this point.
By supporting GamerGate, you are contributing in some small way to the inevitable death of one of these women. You are committing memetic terrorism. And you are just as culpable for the violence as everyone else involved: wholly. You are pulling the trigger, you are landing the blows. When the blood comes, it will be on your hands.
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#97Before this was cancelled, Utah State University police announced "enhanced security measures will now be in place, which include prohibiting backpacks and any large bags." But anyone who had a permit to carry a concealed firearm would be allowed to bring it to the venue. I guess the theory is that anyone targeting Ms. Sarkeesian would have gone down in a hail of patriot bullets, but she wisely decided not to test th…
I can't imagine attending an event where people could carry concealed weapon, even as completely average dude.
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> What I don't get is how they constantly counter-act the common rules on how to deal with trolls or stalkers. "Common rules" along the lines of "just ignore it" tend to make it easy to pretend such things aren't happening and ignore those calling it a serious issue.
I believe the "common rules" in this case are not "just ignore it" but rather: Take legal advice. Contact the police. They would probably say "don't talk to the press about it, don't give the attacker more fuel". In the realm of internet trolls, the classic rule is "don't feed the troll". but an internet troll doesn't make death threats...
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Why are people promoting harassment and calling people cunts in your movement's name, then? That comes off as the opposite of level-headed and respectful. One rotten apple spoils the whole barrel.
This might surprise you to know but there is no way to control who participates in a movement. GG has made clear from square one that this kind of behavior is totally unacceptable. If someone goes ahead and acts like a fool anyways, what exactly do you want everyone else to do? The best that can be done is banning such people from participating in the discussion forums, but this doesn't control whatever they decide t…
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#100oh, what a fruitful discussion this might trigger.. What I don't get is how they constantly counter-act the common rules on how to deal with trolls or stalkers. It really feels like they are bathing in the outrage, not interested in actually solving it. And that's one reason why I sadly don't feel any sympathy but rather understand the vocal (non socio-/psychopath) critics. There is no fair discussion so I wish the m…
Give the Isometric podcast #18 a listen ( http://5by5.tv/isometric/18 ). It might change your mind. Also this: http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point Zoe Quinn tweeted today: "couldn't you just fucking not play my games . Fucking boycott me, don't work with me, just leave my dad alone". She got a dead squirrel in her mailbox a few days ago. Remember: she made a free indie game about depression and had a…
I don't want my daughter to grow up have to compete with people who use their bodies as something trade business favors for.
Frankly is is disgusting that anyone would be supporting this kind of behavior.