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Why Does Spain Have the World's Highest Concentration of Elevators?

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Re: Why Does Spain Have the World's Highest Concentration of Elevators?

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Post by icebraining »

Swizec wrote: post #24
willyt wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be happy in a flat or a house. The right space is more important. I live in a small 2 bedroom house and I wish I just had a tiny 2m square study, somewhere which was my own space where I could e.g. safely leave my soldering iron set up and my kids wouldn't mess with it. Also my kids share a room and they don't have enough space to play Lego without having to put it away at the end of the day. I would really like…

>Also my kids share a room and they don't have enough space to play Lego without having to put it away at the end of the day Having a safe spot for the soldering iron sounds like a good idea, but as far as putting away legos goes ... do you really want to teach your kids not to clean up after themselves? Those sorts of habits spill over. Always putting things in their rightful place has been one of the most important…

There's no rightful place for a multiple-day build that hasn't been finished yet, though. You can't build complex stuff if you have to start from scratch every day.

The solution when I was a kid was a loft bed, it really saved a lot of space in my fairly small bedroom.

Re: Why Does Spain Have the World's Highest Concentration of Elevators?

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Post by SeoxyS »

raverbashing wrote: post #29
spikels wrote: post #13

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An elevator serving 50 stories should count more than one stopping at only 10 stories. A better measure would be total elevator stops but as usual you are stuck with the available data - especially difficult to overcome with mult-country data like this.

I don't remember a place where a single elevator serves 50 floors I've seen buildings where each elevator (set) covered around 12 floors (+ ground floor). This was for a building with +/- 40 floors

That's mostly for efficiency. Imagine going on the top floor and having to wait for 10+ stops on the way up. That said, I think split elevators are more common in commercial buildings. I've seen residential skyscrapers have elevators cover all floors. For example, One Rincon Hill in San Francisco has 3 elevators that all cover all 64 floors.

Re: Why Does Spain Have the World's Highest Concentration of Elevators?

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Post by neito »

I feel like there's a seam in this article. It starts talking about elevators, then goes to apartments. While it's semi-natural to assume $NumElevators is proportional to $numAptBuild, it strikes me as odd that a place that would probably have a significant amount of old construction would have fewer elevators, and older countries would have more old construction. As such, I would more expect the situation to be like, say, Boston, with a lot of new buildings that have nice elevators, and a lot of older, 4-6 story buildings that are entirely walk-ups.

Re: Why Does Spain Have the World's Highest Concentration of Elevators?

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Post by olalonde »

raverbashing wrote: post #29
spikels wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An elevator serving 50 stories should count more than one stopping at only 10 stories. A better measure would be total elevator stops but as usual you are stuck with the available data - especially difficult to overcome with mult-country data like this.

I don't remember a place where a single elevator serves 50 floors I've seen buildings where each elevator (set) covered around 12 floors (+ ground floor). This was for a building with +/- 40 floors

The five elevators in my building (Shenzhen) serve all 45 floors and it's a mess. I think I must have spent 10+ minutes waiting for the elevator once.

Re: Why Does Spain Have the World's Highest Concentration of Elevators?

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Post by jamesaguilar »

Dewie wrote: post #12
jamesaguilar wrote: post #2

I find it fascinating that despite not having the house+back yard that many Americans strive for, the Spanish are happier with their housing situations than we are. As a recently minted homeowner myself, I must say I can see the attraction of apartment living more than I could before. This house is a lot nicer and bigger than our apartment was, but damned if I'm not having to replace the sewer line, the patio, and va…

> I find it fascinating that despite not having the house+back yard that many Americans strive for, the Spanish are happier with their housing situations than we are. Why would American standards matter to how satisfied Spaniards are? This sentence in isolation seems weird. Is there a wider context?

I'm puzzled at why it seems strange to you. I find the differences between cultures interesting, and I am led to believe this is a fairly common fascination.

Re: Why Does Spain Have the World's Highest Concentration of Elevators?

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Post by jamesaguilar »

candeira wrote: post #20
spikels wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An elevator serving 50 stories should count more than one stopping at only 10 stories. A better measure would be total elevator stops but as usual you are stuck with the available data - especially difficult to overcome with mult-country data like this.

The solution would be to count meters of elevator per person.

Or perhaps person-distance/time or mass-distance/time of capacity?

Re: Why Does Spain Have the World's Highest Concentration of Elevators?

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Post by jedberg »

candeira wrote: post #20
spikels wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An elevator serving 50 stories should count more than one stopping at only 10 stories. A better measure would be total elevator stops but as usual you are stuck with the available data - especially difficult to overcome with mult-country data like this.

The solution would be to count meters of elevator per person.

That's still not good enough because a tiny one person elevator shouldn't count the same as a massive 30 person elevator.
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