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Re: The Free Internet Project

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North Korea is colored red with no explanatory text... is that just to say "come on, it's North Korea?"

You can read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_North_Korea

Thanks. Led me to this... wonder if they've implemented ES6 yet? :P

> Red Star OS features a modified Mozilla Firefox browser titled Naenara used for browsing the Naenara web portal on the North Korean intranet network known as Kwangmyong. [1]

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS

Re: The Free Internet Project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>China does not want its citizens' informations in America's XKeyScore nor it's citizens Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, etc data in America's PRISM. The is a laughable justification. If you actually believe in freedom of information you cannot condone China's policy, no matter how much you dislike America.

Nope, just providing some information to contextualize policy decisions by various countries. Who said I'm justifying China's policy, or what I "dislike America"?

Your comment comes across as China is just avoiding the West's intelligence services but most of their censorship is for internal control. You don't ban all reference to June 4th because you are protecting your citizens from the NSA.

Re: The Free Internet Project

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Never knew that the Netherlands and Brazil are the only countries in the world that have net neutrality as a law. Like with legal euthanasia, drugs, gay marriage, etc., as a Dutchman I'm amazed at how non-liberal much of the world is.

"Personal data protected"? So it is protected while our government stores it for 6 to 12 months?

As far as i know its not the government that keeps the data itself, is the ISP's and service providers.. its a minimum period of archiving, for them to respect, so if a law enforcement signed by a judge ask them to reveal some logs for instance, they should have it, if its in the date range they have defined, or else they would also be accountable.

I think this is quite good

Re: The Free Internet Project

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Tell me, what's the difference between government acting without a court order and one acting with a secret court order based on questionable laws. the result is the same. Also, when I know that there's government surveillance and weak privacy, I am less willing to speak free, which is effectively no free speech.

Re: The Free Internet Project

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Why does "left to market" seem to imply "less protected"? I have much more trust in my connection with five competing ISPs than I would have with five regulators. I also find communication with the customer retention department smoother and more productive than trying to figure out which complaint form I need to fill.

Re: The Free Internet Project

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There is a lot freedom in Poland, only because our retarded government has figure out yet how powerful internet is.

Poland and others that suffered under Communism know first hand how bad it can be and value their new life, Hong Kong is going in the other direction unfortunately.

Re: The Free Internet Project

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, just providing some information to contextualize policy decisions by various countries. Who said I'm justifying China's policy, or what I "dislike America"?

Your comment comes across as China is just avoiding the West's intelligence services but most of their censorship is for internal control. You don't ban all reference to June 4th because you are protecting your citizens from the NSA.

The blocking of Facebook and Google is directly related to PRISM, social contagion theory, international surveillance, and weaponized media.

These issues are extremely complex and no single article or HN comment is going to cover it in it's entirety. I think the second bullet point is awfully good justification for China to have a 'less free internet score'. I'm definitely not going to claim that China doesn't engage in domestic censorship outside of international pressures - I believe they absolutely do.

But that's a different issue and not what I was trying to establish. In part, the comment is a good opportunity to alert people who don't understand that weaponization of media (psyops warfare) is prevalent on the internet today - including the 'free countries'. Thankfully, readers will observe this section of the thread and get clarity. :)

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