When I was traveling to Russia 15 years ago, relatives warned me not to show any cash to police.
Asset seizures fuel police spending
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Re: Asset seizures fuel police spending
#52If the Washington Post, and others, would turn the same eye on any other organization, they would have a field day of things they would find, but it wouldn't sell as many newspapers. The problem is, they make it sound like all police have these issues (and others they "report" on) when the reality is far from it. Someone will comment, "But the police shouldn't be doing this and it's a government institution!!", as if…
Oh please, I think the litany of "it's just a few bad apples" has been disproven enough already. I suppose the up to 40% domestic abuse rates among police families (4x national average) is lying about the reality as well? http://womenandpolicing.com/violenceFS.asp I don't claim to know what the solution to America's law enforcement problems are but I have grown increasingly tired of apologists rushing to defend every…
You are shifting from the topic to police families. On top of that, you are tired of apologists for police but have no problem sticking up for the other side.
Re: Asset seizures fuel police spending
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seized assets should sit in escrow until their owner is convicted of a crime and the assets are shown to the be the fruits of that crime. If that can't be done within, say, a year -- two, at the most -- the assets should be returned, with interest. That, I think, is the most important change to make here. Right now people who have assets seized are effectively guilty until proven innocent, and I don't see how that's…
How do I pay my legal fees if my seized cash is being held in escrow?
That's a fair question, to which I think AnthonyMouse suggests a good answer, but my primary point was that the cash shouldn't be spent outright before due process has concluded or the time limit hit.
Re: Asset seizures fuel police spending
#54If the Washington Post, and others, would turn the same eye on any other organization, they would have a field day of things they would find, but it wouldn't sell as many newspapers. The problem is, they make it sound like all police have these issues (and others they "report" on) when the reality is far from it. Someone will comment, "But the police shouldn't be doing this and it's a government institution!!", as if…
So.. is this a boys will be boys scenario? I'm not understanding your general point. It's clear these cops were operating like a mob organization, as do many precincts in this country. I see no harm in highlighting some wrong doing in hopes it'll curb other departments from doing the same.
My point is, you can find similar stories about any organization, from religious operations to charities to almost anything and people will stand up to it as if such things were rampant throughout every member and each and every one of them is a dastardly person.
These stories are what I call the 'shrill of the internet' and you are supposed to focus on it cause, well, someone's screaming about it on the internet so it must be important and rampant and we're all going to die.
In the meantime, you get into trouble and who are the first people you call for help?
Re: Asset seizures fuel police spending
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh please, I think the litany of "it's just a few bad apples" has been disproven enough already. I suppose the up to 40% domestic abuse rates among police families (4x national average) is lying about the reality as well? http://womenandpolicing.com/violenceFS.asp I don't claim to know what the solution to America's law enforcement problems are but I have grown increasingly tired of apologists rushing to defend every…
I should not have to start my iPhone voice recorder and keep my vehicle's dashcam running during a traffic stop because of fears I would normally have living someplace like Russia.
If you do, you are the only person I know who does. I've never even heard of such a thing.
I do not fear the police. I have no need to.
Whatever happend to you that you feel you need to do that? Or is it only because of something you read on the internet?
Re: Asset seizures fuel police spending
#56If the Washington Post, and others, would turn the same eye on any other organization, they would have a field day of things they would find, but it wouldn't sell as many newspapers. The problem is, they make it sound like all police have these issues (and others they "report" on) when the reality is far from it. Someone will comment, "But the police shouldn't be doing this and it's a government institution!!", as if…
Are you seriously arguing that expecting police officers to not be BANDITS is somehow asking too much?
Never said that. Quit making stuff up.
Re: Asset seizures fuel police spending
#57If the Washington Post, and others, would turn the same eye on any other organization, they would have a field day of things they would find, but it wouldn't sell as many newspapers. The problem is, they make it sound like all police have these issues (and others they "report" on) when the reality is far from it. Someone will comment, "But the police shouldn't be doing this and it's a government institution!!", as if…
What other organization routinely takes and keeps assets from US citizens without permission?
You are lumping everything in one category and calling it the same. This is the (can't think of a better word) falsehood of the internet.
Re: Asset seizures fuel police spending
#58As a Canadian I would often take what people from the US say about police with a grain of salt but recently it's seems to have become much worse, even my own government has warned Canadians. I have to wonder though is this not just policy but also a cultural thing on the far-left side there's the 20-something Occupy 1%, pro-weed crowd is this the same thing only on the far-right? As far back as 1999 my first time to…
We live in a police state where the police are allowed to legally rob and even kill people. The sad part is that hiring "Sparkles the clown" actually makes people forget this and trust the police. Stupidity of the people is on par with the vileness of the police. You should consider yourself lucky that that is the only thing that happened to you, which BTW is standard procedure. I would say that's SOP only at the border, but it is becoming more common everywhere within the US, regardless of alleged constitutional rights that are no longer considered by the police or courts.
Re: Asset seizures fuel police spending
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seized assets should sit in escrow until their owner is convicted of a crime and the assets are shown to the be the fruits of that crime. If that can't be done within, say, a year -- two, at the most -- the assets should be returned, with interest. That, I think, is the most important change to make here. Right now people who have assets seized are effectively guilty until proven innocent, and I don't see how that's…
How do I pay my legal fees if my seized cash is being held in escrow?
I've wondered about this. If somebody had tens of millions of dollars, it seems like it might be worth it to pay a lawyer a retainer or insurance or something–"Hey, you have to take care of me if a government ever seized all my assets." Otherwise, how do you hire legal representation to retrieve your wealth?
Re: Asset seizures fuel police spending
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seized assets should sit in escrow until their owner is convicted of a crime and the assets are shown to the be the fruits of that crime. If that can't be done within, say, a year -- two, at the most -- the assets should be returned, with interest. That, I think, is the most important change to make here. Right now people who have assets seized are effectively guilty until proven innocent, and I don't see how that's…
How do I pay my legal fees if my seized cash is being held in escrow?
You can't, and that is on purpose. You know, if you could pay your legal fees, so could a drug lord.