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This is a very very hard problem. The fact is that in a startup you own 50% because you are there working. Once one founder is no longer present it's very hard to claim the 50% is still valid.
This is why it is so important to have vesting of founders shares. Then when they are no longer participating in the company there is an equitable manner for how many shares you end up with. In my first company we arranged vesting over 4 years, 1/4 each year. Some people might prefer 3. Many investors will also insist on this as well.
When a co-founder dies
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#32I"m truly sorry for your loss. You do seem to be dealing with it as healthy as possible at the moment.
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#33Meanwhile, on a discursive note, here's my cautionary start-up anecdote on this subject ...
Some years ago, my wife was involved in a start-up -- a local microbrewery. She was the trainee brewer; two experienced brewers, Ian and David, were the muscle behind it. Ian and Karen worked back at the plant, pumping out beer: David drove the van, making deliveries to local pubs, collecting debts, keeping the business side running.
Now, microbreweries don't generally get VC backing. (They scale linearly with labour inputs, rather than exponentially, and they're paid after the product is drunk. It's a very 18th century business model.) In Fisherrow Brewery's case, it did what most small Scottish businesses do: it relied on a prearranged overdraft facility for its float (basically a line of credit from the bank).
This worked fine, and the brewery was growing, getting ready to hire more staff ... until David died. He was 40, he'd been working hundred hours weeks for a year, and he had a stroke one night.
The business was dead in the water six weeks later. What killed it was not Ian and Karen being unable to keep it going, but the bank; they called in the overdraft. "Why?" Asked Ian. "Because our experience shows that when one of the founders of a small business dies suddenly, 90% of the businesses go bankrupt within six months," said the bank manager. "But we're viable!" He protested. "Yes, but our statistics show that you're going to go bust, so we're pulling your line of credit."
The banks are in the business of risk management, and they know that when a founder dies, the business is going down the shitter. And so they flush, hard, to clear their own liabilities, even if it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
(Here's the icing on the cake: the overdraft was secured against assets that David owned. To be precise, against shares in the bank in question valued at rather more than the overdraft!)
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#37Not wishing to be indelicate but .... Another problem you might face is any relatives of Greg. With no corporates structure - or even one that just says 50:50 you may see wives/parents/cousins convinced that all startups are going to be ebay looking for their billions. Remember the saying: you only choose a spouse - you don't get to choose their family. You may find you spend another few years working on your own to…
It might be a good idea to make a break and restart the idea with just you. That's not ethical. Whatever equity Greg had belongs to his estate.
If you need to bring in investment or new people and give them options who has to agree to that dilution?
If in a few years there is a row in the family about who owns your late partner's share - are you ready to spend time and money to defend in court what you said to who at the funeral?
Again my condolences for the OP's loss. BUT Startup founders need to consider that today they are co-owners with their best friend - tomorrow they may be working with their friend's newly divorced and bitter wife, their useless kids or a slimey lawyer who is preying on their grieving parents.
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It might be a good idea to make a break and restart the idea with just you. That's not ethical. Whatever equity Greg had belongs to his estate.
That depends on what stage you were at. If you both had an idea to 'do search' and had only got as far as picking a name. Then after another 10years of work by you alone you are ready to take on Google, does your late partner's partner get half? If you need to bring in investment or new people and give them options who has to agree to that dilution? If in a few years there is a row in the family about who owns your l…
No it doesn't. If a person owns property (in this case, equity), that property passes to his estate when he dies.
If you both had an idea to 'do search' and had only got as far as picking a name. Then after another 10years of work by you alone you are ready to take on Google, does your late partner's partner get half?
And if someone has written most or all of the code for a startup and then he dies, do you think it's ethical to restart the company and act as if the guy never existed?
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#39Condolences, now go and make him proud.