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Re: Watch Netflix in Ubuntu today

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So why does this work? Is Chrome 37 for Linux now being shipped with support for Encrypted Media Extensions, i.e., HTML's built-in DRM, with Netflix relying on EME? Or has something happened with Moonlight to support Netflix DRM? Or what?

Chrome 37+ already had the necessary DRM extentions, but it only worked with a recent version of the NSS library. It was possible to play HTML5 video on Netflix in Linux since then, but you needed to fake your user agent to say you were on Windows. The reason it works now is that Ubuntu 14.04 (the latest LTS version) has updated to the necessary version of NSS, so Netflix will serve HTML5 video to the standard Chrome…

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Re: Watch Netflix in Ubuntu today

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Has the DRM for Chrome been cracked yet? It seems that having the complete data flow from the server sent packets through to the displayed data would make it relatively easy to work back and crack it sufficiently to make saving drm-ed streams to a local compressed video format possible.

Obviously you could use a modified video driver or grab the data from the actual display - the problem with that would be speed and data size.

Presumably the data stream of the compressed video is in memory at some point in the process and could be sniffed?

IF it's been cracked doesn't it show the futility of applying DRM in the first place?

Re: Watch Netflix in Ubuntu today

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So why does this work? Is Chrome 37 for Linux now being shipped with support for Encrypted Media Extensions, i.e., HTML's built-in DRM, with Netflix relying on EME? Or has something happened with Moonlight to support Netflix DRM? Or what?

Chrome 37+ already had the necessary DRM extentions, but it only worked with a recent version of the NSS library. It was possible to play HTML5 video on Netflix in Linux since then, but you needed to fake your user agent to say you were on Windows. The reason it works now is that Ubuntu 14.04 (the latest LTS version) has updated to the necessary version of NSS, so Netflix will serve HTML5 video to the standard Chrome…

Where does the decryption actually happen? Is it in the CPU chip?

Re: Watch Netflix in Ubuntu today

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post #32

Why do these "Linux gets Netflix" stories not have the same bad attitude from folks as the "W3C caves to DRM" stories? They're the same topic, essentially.

I wasn't a vehement opponent of W3C implementing DRM, but I'll put my two cents in; I don't mind if private companies implement DRM in their own products. I do mind DRM being standardized, meaning every vendor has to implement it in order to be complaint with the standard. Ubuntu != linux, it is just a distro. Similarly Chrome is not the browser standard, it's only an implementation. If this story was actually "Linux…

That sounds logical at first blush, but you're actually looking at the problem backwards.

Markets have power, standards organisations don't.

If the W3C had for some reason told browser vendors "now you have to ship DRM to comply with the standard", with no evidence that it was something that consumers wanted, they would have been told to go to hell. Exactly that happened with a whole bunch of other W3C "standards" that no one was actually interested in shipping; XHTML2, SMIL, XForms, etc.

In practice what happened with DRM is that consumers made it clear that they were very happy to run DRM systems in exchange for access to media. For example almost everyone is prepared to install Flash and Silverlight to get access to video services like NetFlix. Media companies also made it clear that they had no intention of giving up on using DRM on their products, especially whilst consumers were showing themselves to be so ready to embrace DRM-using services. So it's already been the case for some years — essentially for as long as bandwidth sufficient for streaming video has been commonplace — that, as a browser vendor, you have the choice between supporting content that uses DRM (e.g. through your plugin system) or losing so much marketshare you become irrelevant.

More recently browser vendors, including Microsoft, Apple, and Google, decided to cut out the plugin middleman and start shipping their own proprietary DRM systems baked directly into their browser. It was at this point the W3C got involved in standardizing the interface between the browser and the DRM system. But this was long after there was any hope of keeping DRM off the web; everything that's happening now is a retroactive damage limitation exercise.

Re: Watch Netflix in Ubuntu today

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I'm willing to bet it will work in any Linux distro that has the newest Chrome installed, so Mint and Arch Linux will probably also work. Haven't confirmed yet though.

Yep, it's been working in Arch Linux for probably a good month, maybe two. If Twitter search worked I could find when I got it working.

Re: Watch Netflix in Ubuntu today

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. DRM is about accepting unsafe binary blobs into my browser as a standard. Completely different from "encryption". That's like saying infecting everyone with ebola is "medical research".

I'm not a fan of DRM either, but it's hardly Ebola. It's more like a persistent rash. Well, except maybe in the case of Sony music CDs.

> Well, except maybe in the case of Sony music CDs.

That's the problem. My mom taught me not to drink from unknown binary blobs because you can never be sure what's in there.

Re: Watch Netflix in Ubuntu today

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I just tried it in Chrome 38.0.2125.101 (64-bit) and... Unexpected error There was an unexpected error. Please reload the page and try again. Error Code: M7063-1913 So... yeah. UPDATE: Looks like the problem was I had an old version of NSS installed (see http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/09/ubuntu-rolls-updated-nss-... ). Upgraded that with sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade libnss3 ...and now Netflix works fine in Ch…

I get that error, but libnss3 was already up-to-date.

So I'm still out of luck.

Edit: D'oh! Chrome vs chromium. And different error code.

Re: Watch Netflix in Ubuntu today

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Thanks DRM are now working on Linux.

I share your distaste for DRM, but wanted to throw in a comment of support for Netflix. A couple of years ago I was quite disgusted by how a Netflix employee was heckled on stage at the Linux Collaboration Summit. It seems hypocritical of our community to tout user freedom and then fail to treat a public speaker with decency. The right to redistribute other people's stuff unconditionally is not such a basic human rig…

I think one could take a position in between between treating invited speakers disrespectfully and endorsing their work. (It seems like that's maybe actually the position you're taking.) It would be great to find a way to articulate and strengthen anti-DRM norms in more parts of the technical community, so that people don't keep thinking of DRM as natural or inevitable (and so other people can see that there's actually resistance to it in the tech world!).
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