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Satya Nadella Email to Employees: RE: Grace Hopper Conference

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Re: Satya Nadella Email to Employees: RE: Grace Hopper Conference

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I know the question was posed at a conference about women in technology, but I think a good answer to the question of how to ask for a raise goes beyond narrowing the pay gap between women and men. There are plenty of men, myself included, that also feel like we're not getting what we're worth and what our colleagues are getting, but don't have the knowledge how or courage to confront our manager and ask for a raise. Perhaps women are more predominately or more severely affected by this issue, but there's more to it than the men/women pay gap.

I liked Maria Klawe's answer a lot more, it provides some really useful advice beyond "if you think you're being payed less than your male peers, ask for a raise".

Re: Satya Nadella Email to Employees: RE: Grace Hopper Conference

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It's in Satya's interest for employees not to demand raises. Goes for men too. I bet he tells employees not to share salaries either. All it does is breed discontent when you find out how much more your peers make. Instead, you should work super hard and hope the salary fairy will recognize your contributions! Everyone in a company should go interview every year or two and figure out how much $ you're worth. If you'r…

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Nope, it's your job to close the sale. I just indicate I'm open to being sold.

Re: Satya Nadella Email to Employees: RE: Grace Hopper Conference

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The question remains: did he merely misspeak, or is he actually that disconnected from what it's like to have a job? It's good to see a clear and quick retraction, but jeez -- did the words really reflect a thought he had in his head?

Definition of gaffe -- saying what you really think.

Re: Satya Nadella Email to Employees: RE: Grace Hopper Conference

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Video of the interview: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/10060267/events/3447060 The question about women asking for raises happens around 01:34:04.

As a person who can't currently view videos where I am, what was the controversial statement that Satya made?

Re: Satya Nadella Email to Employees: RE: Grace Hopper Conference

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The question remains: did he merely misspeak, or is he actually that disconnected from what it's like to have a job? It's good to see a clear and quick retraction, but jeez -- did the words really reflect a thought he had in his head?

Exactly. "I answered that question wrong" to me read like "I should have been more politically correct with my wording", it doesn't change the fact that in his head he actually thinks employees should shut up and work hard hoping that good things will happen to them.

And ignores that -- if you believe minimsft, and there's little reason not too -- microsoft is an extremely political company.

Re: Satya Nadella Email to Employees: RE: Grace Hopper Conference

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If I may put a bit of a cultural spin on this, his comment sort of reflects the culture in India, where a vast majority of people do not feel comfortable simply asking for a raise. Most people (men and women) essentially follow the strategy that Nadella suggested, to work harder and believe that you will be rewarded for it eventually. I'm not in any way suggesting that this is an effective strategy (especially for women), but it might explain his comment somewhat. Great apology, though.

Re: Satya Nadella Email to Employees: RE: Grace Hopper Conference

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, this technique is very normal, just perhaps not in recent years. http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/Shiga-SFBay.htm

I think that's the point. Apologizing sincerely seems to be a forgotten art.

but he didn't. he said he answered the question wrong, not that the answer was wrong. You could argue about semantics, but it's clear at a very superficial level to everyone that he answered the question wrong - wrong forum, wrong wording - but that says nothing about how correct the answer is.

Like for a personal parallel, it would probably be wrong to announce to a friend that you thought they were ugly, no matter how correct you were.

The sincere apology would have been to announce that his answer was incorrect - otherwise he is just trying to pacify the mob, if that makes sense. Perhaps I'm being a little pedantic, but this email has clearly been proofread by a number of people, and the key statement is definitely not as clear-cut as this HN thread seems to be deciding (it's a very clear-cut non-statement).

Edit: Criticism definitely fair, I jumped to conclusions.

Re: Satya Nadella Email to Employees: RE: Grace Hopper Conference

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I think it's impressive, and somewhat refreshing to see someone so plainly admit "Sorry, I fucked up, I was wrong. I know better now." I was expecting more bullshitty-tasting PR-written damage control.

He says he gave the "wrong" answer to the question, not that the answer he gave was wrong. It was very revealing about what he thinks about paying his employees, especially about not trusting those that ask for raises.
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