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Introducing GIFV

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Re: Introducing GIFV

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post #69

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Can't we just all settle for .webm? This debate is partly why the web is overrun with enormous animated GIFs. It seems pretty clear that webm isn't going to be widely supported. Time to move on.

Move on to what? The annihilation of firefox through a cheap licensing move?

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Re: Introducing GIFV

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post #81

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Wow, the colors are just gutted in the mp4 version.

Yeap, YV12 colourspace doesn't really like sharp pixel-perfect colours.

h.264 streams support 4:4:4 via through the Hi444PP, but I think hardware decoder support for that is non-existent.

Re: Introducing GIFV

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post #8

Can't we just all settle for .webm? The cancerous patented MP4/H264 combination must die.

Why on earth would you use WebM? WebP is actually an image format and is based on the VP8 codec.

Re: Introducing GIFV

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an animated gif is not necessarily a video clip, but it seems that i'm in the minority these days. here's a gif by nicolas sassoon, which format would you prefer? http://i.imgur.com/fv0qgkc.gif (1.3 MB) or http://i.imgur.com/fv0qgkc.gifv (3.9 MB)

another user brought up a good point in the comments section of the imgur post: >GIFs being lossless, editable and universally supported are a pretty big part of what spawned this “culture of the GIF”. Sure, video editing tools exist, but I think most people would agree that GIFs are more "remix-able" than MP4s. It's important that we preserve both formats. (Or perhaps it's time for a modern lossless animation format…

>Or perhaps it's time for a modern lossless animation format?

APNG? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Animated...

Re: Introducing GIFV

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I clicked on this story hoping to find a clever alternative to the raster path for traversing images in GIF images, when used to compress video (highly correlated images). Something that preserves the spirit of GIF, but sucks less for what kids are using it online these days. Bummer.

Re: Introducing GIFV

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post #22

"With all these improvements, Imgur will now denote converted MP4s with a .gifv extension. The intention is to signal to users throughout the Internet that these links will feature a GIF experience that incorporates all the current and future enhancements made through Project GIFV. Imgur plans to submit an accompanying specification to relevant standards organizations before the end of the year." This is bizarre. GIF…

No, probably not anyone who is reading hackernews, but imgur has a much wider audience. GIFV will help communicate 2 things: 1) this file is audio free 2)this file is safe (people don't generally worry about getting a virus from a gif).

If we're lucky, this also means people like Apple won't autoplay the stuff, so we actually download less data on page load.

Re: Introducing GIFV

#150
post #120

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There are a lot of uses for dumb, audio-free video files. Web forums, for instance. You can allow users to embed them without worrying about 100 different auto-playing videos with sound on your page. Plenty of ways to implement that and I'm not sure this is the best approach, but it's not just "worse video". More features is worse , not better, a lot of the time. Like when people used to build entire websites in Flas…

100 auto-playing videos will still bring your computer to a screaming halt.

Not as hard as 100 auto-playing gifs will
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