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Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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I don't think you can summarize without first interpreting.

No, you totally can. You just repeat the main arguments of the author without injecting any of your own opinions.

Main arguments are a matter of interpretation, so your second sentence opposes, rather than supporting, the first.

Summarizing is interpretation, since it is relaying the important points of the source, and determining what is important is a matter of interpretation.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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I don't think you can summarize without first interpreting.

No, you totally can. You just repeat the main arguments of the author without injecting any of your own opinions.

We might have different definitions of the word "interpret". According to Google, interpret: 1) explain the meaning of (information, words, or actions). 2) understand (an action, mood, or way of behaving) as having a particular meaning or significance.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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> His allegations were a mix of the implausible and the cliché. It would take a remarkably naïve candidate to both take these allegations at face value, and think Reddit is somehow unusual in being on the wrong end of them. If not having this stain is the criteria by which they judge potential employers, they will find no employment. 1) Well, that is demonstrably false. I'm employed just fine. 2) I've encountered a s…

> But hey, whatever. I must be lying since your absolutist view is 100% correct to you. In a thread where you are defending a CEO being criticized as, amongst other things, childish, do you not see the irony of this?

> In a thread where you are defending a CEO being criticized as, amongst other things, childish, do you not see the irony of this?

Given you are making absolute statements that are demonstrably false, I was hoping being childish would get the point across that I consider the validity of your argument on par with childish behavior.

Sorry that wasn't clear.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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You are welcome to your opinion. ;) But anyone who responds to being called out publicly, isn't retaliating imo.

It's not being called out, it's the tone. The tone sounds almost like a playground spat. Which hints at it being personality conflict, rather than a performance thing.

> It's not being called out, it's the tone. The tone sounds almost like a playground spat. Which hints at it being personality conflict, rather than a performance thing.

I've taken that tone with people in this thread to point out how stupid I consider there demonstrably false absolute statements.

So...I think the issue here is some people are bothered by Yishan (obviously) and some people are not.

Tbh, given the only way a CEO can safely say "you failed to perform" in regards to an employee is if they have documented missed deadlines by that employee...I don't think your point of view is likely grounded in reality.

Most (sane & rational) people don't open themselves up to a lawsuit without being pretty sure they evidence to support their statements.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Most cases you're probably thinking about are of CEOs of big companies issuing CYA-statements that minimize legal attack surface. Here, the guy just exposed himself completely. Also Reddit is not Goldman Sachs; it's value is directly proportional to how much people like the company, and Reddit finds itself in the middle of another funding round. I do see a great potential for bad consequences here.

I doubt the unemployed guy would have the resources to mount a legal attack anyway. As for bad PR, take a look at this thread (or the reddit thread): the majority of people are reflexively siding with the CEO.

Reddit just raised $50 million. A lawsuit is the kind of thing some lawyers take essentially on commission when the target has money.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Replying to public statements about yourself or your company isn't "vindictive". Things like this have a real business impact. I've cancelled interviewing at companies based on conversations with former employees that the company didn't have a satisfactory answer for. If I saw this in a public forum and Reddit failed to point out that the former employee was fired (and was aware he was fired) in a public setting (whi…

If I saw this in a public forum and Reddit failed to point out that the former employee was fired (and was aware he was fired) in a public setting (which would make them liable for being sued, if Reddit lied) holds alot more weight than "Oh, ya, that guy. He was full of shit" told to me privately would. Every large company has fired at least one person, and every large company has at least one "full of shit" disgrunt…

Yes, but how many of your ex-girlfriends or ex-boyfriends run around trashing you in public? I'm guessing not many.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Ok, I don't get it. So everyone here says that CEO's statement was childish, and yet next time when another company issues a professional statement, people will be calling it content-less cover-your-ass PR fluff, and crying for more honesty and straight talk. Make up your mind. As for me, personally, I think CEO's response was exactly what it should be. Honest, clear, straight to the point. Reddit just earned my resp…

To be fair, "honesty and straight talk" from Linus Torvalds received mixed responses from the HN crowd too, as seen in another thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8415729.

Of course, these two situations aren't the same. I still find their respective rhetorics interesting.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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> But hey, whatever. I must be lying since your absolutist view is 100% correct to you. In a thread where you are defending a CEO being criticized as, amongst other things, childish, do you not see the irony of this?

> In a thread where you are defending a CEO being criticized as, amongst other things, childish, do you not see the irony of this? Given you are making absolute statements that are demonstrably false, I was hoping being childish would get the point across that I consider the validity of your argument on par with childish behavior. Sorry that wasn't clear.

Let me make user I understand this. Because in the course of a long conversation I made statements you disagreed with without equivocating enough for your tastes, you thought the appropriate response was to be childish?

Deliberately childish behavior engaged in to be manipulative makes it easy to conclude someone lacks integrity.

Is it your intent to be dismissed as lacking integrity?

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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No, you totally can. You just repeat the main arguments of the author without injecting any of your own opinions.

Main arguments are a matter of interpretation, so your second sentence opposes, rather than supporting, the first. Summarizing is interpretation, since it is relaying the important points of the source, and determining what is important is a matter of interpretation.

Nope. Selecting which main argument to repeat is a matter of interpretation. But once you've selected it, repeating it requires little interpretation. Adding your own commentary requires interpretation in both selection and writing.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Performance is not necessarily a death sentence. I've had jobs where I've performed poorly and jobs where I've performed excellently. I've also had years I was "on" and years I was a little "off." Businesses are not charities. They need to get things done. If you can't do the things, then they don't have to continue to pay you. Like it or not, that's how it works.

That's because performance is easily gamed. A manager could make someones performance look bad, or good regardless of reality. That's why you can suddenly be a good performer or bad performer just by changing companies. It doesn't even have to be a conscious thing. Everybody is subconsciously biased. If you like don't like someone, you performance managament them out by like giving them lots of terrible tasks or stup…

In my first job out of college, 2 years in or so, the amount of web work was slumping (it was the first web bust). My boss and lead developer all went on vacation the same week and my boss gave me a fairly impossible job to do without the both of them helping out in some fashion.

I was not successful. So I'm quite familiar with the technique.

Basically, if you get the vibe that you're not well-liked, you should just leave or figure out how to.

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