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Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

#201
All these multi-number payment card offerings go against the age-old truism that it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission.

If people really cared about avoiding a fraudulent transaction depleting their bank account, they would use credit cards instead of debit cards.

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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I was recently in the U.S. and saw a person use a paper cheque. I'm not joking.

Cheques are extremely common in the US. I'm forced to pay my car insurance by mail each month with a paper cheque, it's terrible.

I can only imagine. Sometimes when you sign up for US services you need to provide "a copy of a utility bill".

I don't get bills on paper, much less pay them that way. I come from the future though. You'll love it. You won't believe this but I'm typing this very message on a palm sized computer/telephone device.

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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> Final lets you give a unique credit card number to every merchant, or a disposable one-time use number for one-off purchases. This is something I have been asking for since forever! People on here claimed it was "impossible" because of how credit cards work, I guess not... > Tired of your monthly yoga pants subscription? Or a two-week "free" trial that lasted four months? Just deactivate that card number. It's that…

> Tired of your monthly yoga pants subscription? Or a two-week "free" trial that lasted four months? Just deactivate that card number. It's that easy.

Why not just cancel the subscription? If you remembered you are getting charged for a subscription, and took the effort to cancel that card number. Why wouldn't you just cancel the subscription in the first place?

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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> Final lets you give a unique credit card number to every merchant, or a disposable one-time use number for one-off purchases. This is something I have been asking for since forever! People on here claimed it was "impossible" because of how credit cards work, I guess not... > Tired of your monthly yoga pants subscription? Or a two-week "free" trial that lasted four months? Just deactivate that card number. It's that…

This sort of reminds me of public key cryptography. I generally really like the idea. I've always felt really uneasy about credit cards, the fact that all I have to do is enter the same numbers to every single website I purchase from.

The programmer in me tells me "this just can't be secure", and the only hope I have that my card number is never stolen is, well, hope.

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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You're right; occasionally you'll find a collection agency that has their act together. Luckily, collection agencies purchase their debt for pennies on the dollar, so they're happy to get anything. Start by offering them 10% of the debt, and go from there up to no more than 25% of the debt, stipulating (in writing) that its "Pay For Delete". This will require them to remove the negative credit information from your c…

Is there a way to contact you? I'm facing some very relevant circumstances, unfortunately, and would like to ask your advice.

patio11 had a great post on that about a year ago that you might be interested in:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7135833

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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Counterpoint. If you get taken to collections over a trivial amount ( Have to go to court for collections? The first words out of your mouth need to be, "Verify the debt." Ask them to produce the document you signed and agreed to. In the vast majority of cases, without this, your case will be dropped with prejudice. This is based on research I did while dealing with a personal mortgage "issue". http://www.thisamerica…

Not all collections agencies are so sloppy and unscrupulous. If you do owe the money and they do have the documentation to support it, you may well have a judgement against you and that definitely will hurt your credit score. Some companies (like say gym membership) have internal collections departments that can be quite aggressive. They would certainly be able to back up any lawsuit. In general, you really want to t…

> In general, you really want to try to avoid being sued.

In reality, companies will do almost anything to avoid suing you for small amounts of money. The financials don't make sense. E.g. how much gym debt would it take to justify a lawyer's fees to pursue you? Not less than several thousand dollars, probably much more.

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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CTO/Co-Founder of Final here. Final is what we built to take back control of our own credit cards for how and when we’re charged, instead of leaving it up to merchants. That led to merchant-specific numbers and limits, managed automatically, as well as transparency in statements. It’s our stake in the ground, a way to shift the culture in credit towards consumer friendliness. Happy to answer questions

Love this idea, however I don't use credit cards (or any other form of unsecured debt). Do you plan to offer a debit card?

That's dumb, why wouldn't you use a credit card for recurring purchases and build credit for more spending power?
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