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Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

#41

The guy in the video is the exact same person in the coin video. https://onlycoin.com/ I'm really pissed off I paid for coin. I'm not going to pay a dime for plastc or this until it's released.

It's Adam Lisagor whose video production company Sandwich Video works on lots of startup videos http://sandwichvideo.com/

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

#42

I have to say, the intro video for this was pretty good. Well done.

I watched the video only after I saw your remark and I have to agree. It's the first advertisement in ages that nearly got me interested into what they have to sell. I usually can't stand a classic video presentation.

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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CTO/Co-Founder of Final here. Final is what we built to take back control of our own credit cards for how and when we’re charged, instead of leaving it up to merchants. That led to merchant-specific numbers and limits, managed automatically, as well as transparency in statements. It’s our stake in the ground, a way to shift the culture in credit towards consumer friendliness. Happy to answer questions

Do you actually know, for a fact, that you can generate arbitrary card numbers? Meaning have you got an agreement with visa, mastercard, or similar where they allow you to do that.

Is there a limit on how many customers/unique card numbers you can have, and is there an inherent cost in gaining a new number (e.g. will accounts be capped at X disposable numbers per Y period).

Once you delete a card number how quickly is it returned to the "pool?" And do you re-assign it to a new user requesting a number?

Do you think third party web-sites will break because a card number is used twice for two different users (e.g. user 1 and user 2 both have the same number on their accounts, because user 1 let it expire, and then user 2 received it and utilised it).

Are you worried that these numbers could be used for fraud or abuse (e.g. unlimited trials).

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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CTO/Co-Founder of Final here. Final is what we built to take back control of our own credit cards for how and when we’re charged, instead of leaving it up to merchants. That led to merchant-specific numbers and limits, managed automatically, as well as transparency in statements. It’s our stake in the ground, a way to shift the culture in credit towards consumer friendliness. Happy to answer questions

One of the problem w/ traditional credit cards is that my interests are not aligned with those of the card issuer. It's better for me to pay off my balance every month, but better for my bank if I don't so they can collect interest. Will this be any different with Final? If so, how do you plan to make money?

We make money when our customers are happy. Yes, we still make money the traditional way - via transaction fees and interest on debt. But we make a lot more money if we have millions of happy customers - we can't win this market if we treat our customers like every other bank.

We're building this product for ourselves and for our friends first. And many of them are unhappy with how banks treat customers and optimize for fees and increasing debt.

We don't think encouraging conspicuous consumption is the only way to be a successful credit card company.

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

#45

The guy in the video is the exact same person in the coin video. https://onlycoin.com/ I'm really pissed off I paid for coin. I'm not going to pay a dime for plastc or this until it's released.

You can e-mail help@onlycoin.com with your order number & cancel.

[1] https://twitter.com/coin/status/519895644761096193

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

#48

The guy in the video is the exact same person in the coin video. https://onlycoin.com/ I'm really pissed off I paid for coin. I'm not going to pay a dime for plastc or this until it's released.

The same video production company is being used all over for startups like this. It does not imply any relationship to coin or any others. http://sandwichvideo.com/

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

#49

> Final lets you give a unique credit card number to every merchant, or a disposable one-time use number for one-off purchases. This is something I have been asking for since forever! People on here claimed it was "impossible" because of how credit cards work, I guess not... > Tired of your monthly yoga pants subscription? Or a two-week "free" trial that lasted four months? Just deactivate that card number. It's that…

On collections - if you sign an agreement to pay and you don't make a payment, you run the risk of that going to collections. However, many monthly subscriptions have you prepay and charge you without your direct consent. There are many unscrupulous businesses out there, and it's easy to put a simple control over those charges to limit your exposure and the "grey charges" on your statement that are tough to get rid of.
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