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Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics

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I'm really glad that there is an industrial use for them. Blue ones are used, at least around my area, to decorate things.

The "white" LEDs you see in light bulbs in the store are actually blue.

How? Or is it a mix of Red, Blue and Green?

Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics

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> it just doesn't strike me as an "outstanding contribution to the field of physics" You have to consider it within the context of the intention of the Nobel prize, which is to reward the "invention of greatest benefit to mankind". So perhaps it's not fundamental physics per se, but it's certainly in the spirit of the prize. [Disclaimer: I work on this stuff, and was lucky enough to see Nakamura talk just recently. S…

I've never heard about "invention" as such being a part of the intention of the Nobel prize before, but apparently you are correct, it was mentioned for physics specifically in Nobel's will. I suppose I never made the connection because giving the prize for an invention as opposed to a discovery is very rare. That resolves many of my reservations with this year's winners. I do definitely agree that there is not enoug…

To amplify, it strikes me as in the spirit of the prize for the scanning tunneling microscope (STM). All of the conceptual pieces were present, it was not a huge intellectual leap to put it together. That said, actually working out the details of the tip and controller etc to produce the beautiful results was, well, you knew it was sublime when you laid eyes on it.

Many groups were working hard on GaN/AlGaN systems at the time, as well as various ternary/quaternary permutations. Kudos to the winners for making it happen. Some pretty big doors were opened.

Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics

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> Or use the (imperfect) GaN crystals to grow incrementally better crystals over multiple rounds? This is exactly what's often done. It's all about scale fundamentally. It's slow to grow crystals, they have to be very high quality single crystals, and they can't have even the slightest trace of impurities, and ideally they're going to be large and easy to process too. If an alternative substrate is also hard to grow…

Is Ostwald ripening a problem?

Not specifically. I haven't really heard it mentioned, but I don't actually do growth myself. It's mostly Stranski-Krastanov growth with islands growing until they coalesce. There's not really any significant flow of atoms between islands to my knowledge. What's your interest in it?

Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics

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The "white" LEDs you see in light bulbs in the store are actually blue.

How? Or is it a mix of Red, Blue and Green?

There are down-converting phosphors on the surface that convert a fraction of the blue light to other wavelengths to get close to white.

Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics

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I've never heard about "invention" as such being a part of the intention of the Nobel prize before, but apparently you are correct, it was mentioned for physics specifically in Nobel's will. I suppose I never made the connection because giving the prize for an invention as opposed to a discovery is very rare. That resolves many of my reservations with this year's winners. I do definitely agree that there is not enoug…

To amplify, it strikes me as in the spirit of the prize for the scanning tunneling microscope (STM). All of the conceptual pieces were present, it was not a huge intellectual leap to put it together. That said, actually working out the details of the tip and controller etc to produce the beautiful results was, well, you knew it was sublime when you laid eyes on it. Many groups were working hard on GaN/AlGaN systems a…

I don't consider it the same class because an STM is a scientific instrument. It is used to perform more experiments, and leads directly to an increase in knowledge. Blue LEDs themselves, while definitely a big achievement, don't add much to the body of knowledge.

Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics

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Did someone call it a priSe? It was only a prise when Obama got the Nobel Peace one.

Nope, original spelling of the topic said "price".

From the OP, the Nobel Price -- SEK 8 million, to be shared equally between the Laureates. ;-)

Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics

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Is Ostwald ripening a problem?

Not specifically. I haven't really heard it mentioned, but I don't actually do growth myself. It's mostly Stranski-Krastanov growth with islands growing until they coalesce. There's not really any significant flow of atoms between islands to my knowledge. What's your interest in it?

One of my labmates from grad school did colloidal quantum dot synthesis, and he regularly cursed Ostwald and his infernal ripening. Just general curiosity if it came up in this area, and if so, how it was dealt with.

By the way, your series of posts on this topic have been superlative—many thanks.

Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics

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It is not groundbreaking at a theoretical level, but its implications in the everyday lives of people seems to be far reaching. It is a signal of how much things have changed in the world, now not concerned with great advances, instead focused on technologies to use resources more efficiently.

Re: The 2014 Nobel Prize in Physics

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To amplify, it strikes me as in the spirit of the prize for the scanning tunneling microscope (STM). All of the conceptual pieces were present, it was not a huge intellectual leap to put it together. That said, actually working out the details of the tip and controller etc to produce the beautiful results was, well, you knew it was sublime when you laid eyes on it. Many groups were working hard on GaN/AlGaN systems a…

I don't consider it the same class because an STM is a scientific instrument. It is used to perform more experiments, and leads directly to an increase in knowledge. Blue LEDs themselves, while definitely a big achievement, don't add much to the body of knowledge.

I disagree. Look, in another article here on the front page, these blue LEDs are directly involved in an increase of knowledge:

"...the charter, which is then illuminated with LED lights ranging from the ultraviolet at a wavelength of 365 nm, through the visible region, and right up to a wavelength of 1050 nm in the infrared region."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8421623

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