Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the sense that he seems to have successfully trolled a CEO, yes, he "forced" the issue.
Which is of course the fault of the CEO... not the troll.
Correct.
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Why would it? Seems like a perfectly reasonable and professional response by yishan, shows investors that he isn't going to take crap from ex-employees trying to bad mouth the company.
Heh, perfectly reasonable and professional right until the boldened "fired" in the second sentence? Care to give an example what would constitute a less-than professional response?
He emphasized the word to clearly mark the difference -- why is that unprofessional?
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#243Ok, I don't get it. So everyone here says that CEO's statement was childish, and yet next time when another company issues a professional statement, people will be calling it content-less cover-your-ass PR fluff, and crying for more honesty and straight talk. Make up your mind. As for me, personally, I think CEO's response was exactly what it should be. Honest, clear, straight to the point. Reddit just earned my resp…
I agree. When we get nonsense, unbelievable fluff answers, we complain that companies should give it to us straight; here, we've gotten a straight answer from the CEO and all we hear is grief? It's a bit odd. I personally thought the CEO's answer was appropriate, given the former employee began the provocation.
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#244Ok, I don't get it. So everyone here says that CEO's statement was childish, and yet next time when another company issues a professional statement, people will be calling it content-less cover-your-ass PR fluff, and crying for more honesty and straight talk. Make up your mind. As for me, personally, I think CEO's response was exactly what it should be. Honest, clear, straight to the point. Reddit just earned my resp…
Maybe your confusion will be reduced if you meditate on a few concepts:
* "Childish" and "unprofessional" are not synonyms.
* Neither are "adult" and "professional".
* Neither are "childish" and "honest".
* Neither are "adult" and "dishonest".
* PR fluff is not the same as the general concept of public relations.
* "We will not discuss this." is honest and straightforward, as are a number of alternative statements people have suggested.
* A statement made by an individual with limited power and resources may have very different implications and be perceived very differently than the same statement made by one with great power and resources.
* HN is composed of many individuals with nuanced opinions and worldviews.
* Individuals with diametrically opposed viewpoints in some areas may have very similar viewpoints in others, and sometimes the reasons for that may be subtle.
* No particular comment thread will necessarily have a representative sample of individuals participating.
* Confirmation bias exists.
Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit
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That is not a tldr. That's your interpretation.
That's the point of TLDR'ing: what they said was so muddled (or evasive) that we're forced to draw an interpretation.
The point of TL;DR is to summarize a longer piece. It literally means “Too long; didn't read”
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How do you know its clear and straight talking? It could be complete bs, and same for employee. When your angry/hateful towards someone, all logic falls out the window.
I don't see anything angry or hateful in that response. I think people here are just projecting.
That response sounds angry to me.
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In the spirit of non-disparagement, it seems like Yishan could have sent a private message to the employee which reiterated why he had been fired, and asked him to stop posting about it. If Yishan felt that it was necessary to comment, he could have still posted something without Reddit losing face – something like, "We're sorry that you feel our decision to let you go was unclear. I've sent you a private message, an…
If he did that, this whole thread would be about how Reddit CEO is a weasel PR-drone incapable of honest talk. Damned if you do, damned if you don't; people here are going to accuse him anyway, because it fits the David vs. Goliath narrative.
I don't think so; if he did that there would be no thread.
"Former Reddit worker does an AMA; CEO talks to him privately about why he was let go" is not nearly as catchy.
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It's a website with entire sections devoted to cat pictures, stupid image memes, borderline child pornography and all kinds of other weird shit. Why would you expect it to be "professional"?
When you've taken 50 million dollars in investment and are expected to bring a good return on it, amatuer hour is over.
When people invest 50 million dollars in the aforementioned website and service, maybe the amateurs aren't just the ones running the business.
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He wasn't laid off - he was fired. This is the first point the CEO makes and it's an important distinction that the poster seemed to not own up to at all. Not knowing the difference between being fired and being laid off is bad - there's a pretty remote possibility that the poster's direct manager didn't own the message well and told the guy "we're letting you go" and he didn't understand he was being fired, but even…
> I was laid off. > > What was the reason?... > > > Officially: no reason... This basically reads like he was trying to dance around saying he was fired, but he was saying he got fired. You don't get laid off by yourself, and you definitely don't get a "reason".
If he wanted to dance around, when asked "Why did you quit?", he could have given a generally vague answer like "I was let go." This could mean fired or laid-off. But he chose the specific "laid-off" answer. This means something very different than "fired." I don't think he was dancing around as much as just in denial about getting fired.
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But the other guy will likely struggle to get another job because of the shitstorm so he is IMO much more at risk than the CEO is.
Yes, but the CEO did it in response to a guy being stupid enough to lie about his termination on his former employer's web page. And the guy is still just a random ex-Redditor, so he can lie low for a bit - get a job in a softwarehouse that won't bother figuring out his Reddit handle, build positive references. This guy can step out of the spotlight anytime he wants.
Lie about his termination? I think that is taking it a bit far. Confused? Upset? Angry? Wrong even? Sure. Lying? Probably not.
A lot of companies are very vague when they fire an employee. I've been let go twice, once for "poor performance" and once for "not the right fit". In both cases when I pressed for more detail I was not given anything concrete.
In the poor performance case I would say things like "but I had all my code reviewed and the reviewers said my code was fine...". And get responses like "we just didn't feel like your performance was up to scratch".
I was upset and angry at the time because they never provided me with any real evidence or gave me a chance to fix it. I kept coming up with all sorts of reasons (like the fact that I was 20 years older than the next oldest developer). OTOH, I am not stupid enough to air my grievances on a public forum.