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Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Post by TeMPOraL »

sheepmullet wrote: post #225
TeMPOraL wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the CEO just exposed himself for a serious lawsuit if even an iota of this statement is not true, not to mention a media shitstorm and total loss of faith of his subordinates. This is strong evidence in favour of believing him over the other guy.

But the other guy will likely struggle to get another job because of the shitstorm so he is IMO much more at risk than the CEO is.

Yes, but the CEO did it in response to a guy being stupid enough to lie about his termination on his former employer's web page. And the guy is still just a random ex-Redditor, so he can lie low for a bit - get a job in a softwarehouse that won't bother figuring out his Reddit handle, build positive references. This guy can step out of the spotlight anytime he wants.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Post by [deleted] »

pgrote wrote: post #168

The CEO has responded to the criticism of how it was handled: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditCensorship/comments/2ifd3p/ud... "Hiya. It was a harsh response, I agree (there's actually more, but we're pulling our punches, if you can believe it), and in fact all day yesterday I didn't want to post a reply, hoping his AMA wouldn't get too much traction or he wouldn't spout too many misconceptions and we could all just c…

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Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Post by j_baker »

pgrote wrote: post #168

The CEO has responded to the criticism of how it was handled: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditCensorship/comments/2ifd3p/ud... "Hiya. It was a harsh response, I agree (there's actually more, but we're pulling our punches, if you can believe it), and in fact all day yesterday I didn't want to post a reply, hoping his AMA wouldn't get too much traction or he wouldn't spout too many misconceptions and we could all just c…

This really sounds more like a simple personality clash to me.

The funny thing is that had the CEO really just kept his mouth shut like he originally intended, the thing would probably have blown over. The employee wasn't really making any claims that could seriously harm an organization[1]. Instead, it's just a petty squabble over an issue the employee probably wouldn't have gotten much support from opposing anyway.

[1] http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/15/julie-ann-horvath-describes...

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Post by munificent »

grimtrigger wrote: post #228
danso wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without knowing any of the sides here, all I can say for sure is that the ex-Reddit employee is showing a baffling amount of bad judgment here, even when benchmarked against other young-techie-implosions. Maybe he thought, "Oh no biggie, I can always delete this thread later and my real name isn't on it"...yes, until the thread explodes and now one of the many tech-news blogs jumps on it...the "no doxx allowed" rule…

People who take the "moral high ground" always have to deal with the same criticism. Edward Snowden? Doing it for attention. Assange? Total attention whore At some level its true. People take principled stands in the hope that somebody pays attention. That doesn't mean their criticisms or opinions are invalid.

There's nothing wrong with wanting attention. The only question is what do you give in return for it?

Some of the most significant experiences in my life came from giving my attention to authors, musicians, etc.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Post by supersystem »

pgrote wrote: post #168

The CEO has responded to the criticism of how it was handled: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditCensorship/comments/2ifd3p/ud... "Hiya. It was a harsh response, I agree (there's actually more, but we're pulling our punches, if you can believe it), and in fact all day yesterday I didn't want to post a reply, hoping his AMA wouldn't get too much traction or he wouldn't spout too many misconceptions and we could all just c…

What bothers me is that they couldn't give him a reason why he was fired out of respect, but had no problem doing so when it was out of spite.

Firing someone, that is giving up cash to not sign your agreement, isn't "going our separate ways". And standards which doesn't apply when it matters aren't very good standards.

All management no leadership it seems.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Post by opendais »

opendais wrote: post #224
dreamweapon wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bunch of ways. The point is you didn't present it as an interpretation ; you presented it as something he physically, actually said. Which, as you knew, it wasn't.

Eh? I literally said -> "The guy basically said " http://www.italki.com/question/143633 "When we summarize something that somebody said, we use this expression. " Eh. You have an interesting way of understanding English I've never encountered before. You also fail to provide said intepretation/explanation/whatever you like to call it. So...ya.

I'm replying to myself since I don't feel like waiting and I'm not going to be on for awhile...

You basically started an argument on the internet over my use of "" to differentiate between his posts.

K. Glad we cleared that up and I don't really care anymore.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Post by bhangi »

This is an unfortunate display of bad judgement by all parties concerned.

The disgruntled employee, even if he had not signed an NDA, did something fairly stupid and verboten -- namely, he bad-mouthed a former employer and ex-colleagues. The (tech) world is small and such public displays of indiscretions always come back to bite you.

Yishan Wong had a lot more to lose IMHO by engaging in this manner with the ex-employee in a public forum. He risks the reputation of his company and his own personal brand. Based on Yishan's writings that I've read, I found him to be a thoughtful manager who seemed ready to make the jump to executive cadre. I'd have expected a more mature reaction and ideally not a public one. No matter, we all have lapses of judgement -- hope that Yishan is getting appropriate counsel from more experienced executives and is able to defuse the situation without more damage -- reputational or otherwise.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Post by general_failure »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #42
dreamweapon wrote: post #10

Sounds like a toxic environment. Whatever the employee may have done to deserve separation, it is profoundly weird and troubling (and also, implicitly threatening to all employees, whatever their rank or standing) to see a CEO discuss those reasons in public.

This was my response as well. If anything, he should have someone else respond. The fact it irked the CEO enough to stop whatever important things he was doing to log in and craft a fairly long rebuttal is telling. I know plenty of people in PR and most would look at this and say this situation was completely mishandled. The CEO's comments actually makes him look worse than the whining ex-employee.

Huh? He is the CEO of the website. It's great that he takes these thing personally.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

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Post by ufmace »

austinl wrote: post #153
differentView wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What should Yishan have said?

In the spirit of non-disparagement, it seems like Yishan could have sent a private message to the employee which reiterated why he had been fired, and asked him to stop posting about it. If Yishan felt that it was necessary to comment, he could have still posted something without Reddit losing face – something like, "We're sorry that you feel our decision to let you go was unclear. I've sent you a private message, an…

As far as looking at all sides goes, how do you know he didn't do that already? I'm not sure what the culture around letting people go is at Reddit, but I'm inclined to think he knows perfectly well that he was fired, and why, and is at best shading the truth in his favor to make himself look better.
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