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Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

#101

I really don't like this. The problem is that Yishan never explicitly states that there was an exit interview, and the reason for the termination was clearly explained. He could have a half assed HR person that gave some bullshit reason like "you are not a good fit", and the ex-employee is legitimately confused about why he was terminated. The other potential issue is that employees go into shock when they are told t…

In California, a termination conversation usually begins and ends like this: "Thank you for your time, your services are no longer required. Please collect your belongings."

Anything else opens the company up to liability.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

#102
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an interesting phenomenon. Given that the story is arguably fairly relevant to the recent investment by Sam, what safeguards are in place to ensure that content like this can't be taken out of the public light by a "reporting brigade?"

What's a "reporting brigade"? I've never met Sam and am not a Reddit fan, and I flagged this story, because it's just drama.

Assuming you're not trolling; "brigading" is you talk to all your similarly, minded peers on IRC with long-standing, legitimate HN accounts to flag the story because it annoys you. (Different from a voting ring, which may include non-legitimate accounts and lacks the 'tit-for-tat')

I haven't flagged it because it's more than stupid high school drama, it's an object lesson - is the person who would become CEO on the startup team you're joining/funding likely to behave in a similar fashion?

Because CEO Yishan just opened up Reddit to a potentially expensive, but more importantly, distracting lawsuit. It may have saved face in the all important young-male demographic that Reddit caters to, and probably felt good as the CEO to be able to perform to such a public 'smackdown' of a former employee 'running his mouth off', but as as developer it says quite a bit about the the companies culture if the CEO bullies people like that. "Taking the high road" is how professionals act towards other professionals, and while the former employee was far from professional, that might have been the better option for the Reddit CEO to take.

Even waiting a few days to make sure the 'i's were dotted, and 't's were crossed by the legal team, followed by a (short) public blog post refuting the most disparaging remarks made would have been less childish and more responsible would have been better.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

#103
No comments here on HN yet along the lines of all PR is good PR?

Lets face it, this is Reddit. He didn't get fired from the local railroad yard. They're getting excellent traffic off this story. Even the guy who got fired is at least getting "internet famous" for a day.

The whole story boils down to "reddit AMA's, something interesting to look at and talk about". Not seeing a problem here.

A real conspiracy theory would be playing this game to get some traffic was part of his severance package (In exchange for a faux argument in a AMA with our CEO, you'll get an extra 6 months salary as a severance bonus plus an extra month if the HN story gets over 100 comments, etc)

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

#104
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's a "reporting brigade"? I've never met Sam and am not a Reddit fan, and I flagged this story, because it's just drama.

Assuming you're not trolling; "brigading" is you talk to all your similarly, minded peers on IRC with long-standing, legitimate HN accounts to flag the story because it annoys you. (Different from a voting ring, which may include non-legitimate accounts and lacks the 'tit-for-tat') I haven't flagged it because it's more than stupid high school drama, it's an object lesson - is the person who would become CEO on the s…

Unfamiliar with IRC slang, because don't hang out on IRC.

Wasn't looking for an opportunity to relitigate the whole pointless thread on this subthread.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

#105
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, this post only makes reddit look like a very unprofessional workplace.

Maybe it's not "professional", where that word has the common meaning of avoiding saying hard truths on the grounds that someone's feelings and/or political position might be hurt. This significantly elevates Reddit, IMO. Their CEO acts like a fucking human being instead of a politicized, sanitized, pretentious, weasel-wording sock puppet like so many other CEOs. You have no idea how much respect I have for this.

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Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

#107
post #25

Aw man. This is totally gonna get taken down by YC management/altman...

It's so much easier to casually fling things like this out there than it is to answer them, but FWIW, what you're insinuating is false. We penalize stories less, not more, when they're anti-YC, and every moderator is strictly instructed about it.

And also, technically the YC entity has no investment in reddit anymore, only individual partners. :)

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

#108
post #35

Sounds like a toxic environment. Whatever the employee may have done to deserve separation, it is profoundly weird and troubling (and also, implicitly threatening to all employees, whatever their rank or standing) to see a CEO discuss those reasons in public.

Seems the employee forced the issue, yes?

The response went into far too much detail. Wrongful termination lawsuits happen all of the time, defamation can be found when any term you use can not be evidenced.

A pro would have either ignored this AMA or issued blanket, definable statements, such as "You were fired for performance related reasons."

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an interesting phenomenon. Given that the story is arguably fairly relevant to the recent investment by Sam, what safeguards are in place to ensure that content like this can't be taken out of the public light by a "reporting brigade?"

> what safeguards are in place to ensure that content like this can't be taken out of the public light by a "reporting brigade?" There are no safeguards against reporting, which is why certain types of threads (gender, diversity) rarely hit the front page, unfortunately. Many users associate Reddit content with low-quality content, so flagging would not be surprising. Almost every HN submission I've seen linking to r…

Gender and diversity threads don't hit the front-page because the decorum in those threads is so bad that they both trigger automated self-defense mechanisms in the HN code (the "flame war detector") and inspire flags. I try not to flag those stories, because I agree with the people who have qualms about HN effectively brushing those stories under the rug, but I've flagged some of the more hopeless-seeming variants.

Re: Reddit CEO Calls Out Former Reddit Employee on Reddit

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sure, but did the CEO have to do it? And if the CEO was to respond, shouldn't "not true, you were fired" be enough? No need to call him incompetent and lazy (even if he is). That's the part that rubbed me the wrong way, especially since the guy didn't actually trash reddit as bad as they did to him.

If you read the rest of the thread, he was doing a fair bit of trashing the company, management, etc

I don't know, even still it's not really sitting well with me how the CEO handled it
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